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Oct 28, 2004 09:36


There's an artist, Nathalia Edenmont, who kills cats, mice, doves, rabbits, and other animals, mutilates their bodies, and then takes their photographs. She's on exhibit, among other places, at the Wetterling Gallery in Sweden. She has taken the top halves of five white mice and made them into finger puppets. She beat a cat to death with a stick. ( Read more... )

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lil_el0 October 29 2004, 05:37:57 UTC
for one thing, you dont see me buying 10 pounds of makeup anyways, and i do try to make sure that its tested on animals, no one cant be absolutely perfect. plus you never even come with me to get my makeup, and i dont always look to see if they test on animals, no. but i mean cmon, how can you except someone to be flawless like that? but my point is, i think its a little worse to kill an animal for no purpse other than to stuff its head and put in on display for people to gawk at them, why else would you think its illegal in the US? and i know fast food stores hurt their animals, you dont see me eating meat anymore. the worse part is theyre killing cats, domestic animals. its disgusting, that could have been my cat. its disgustingly immoral to beat an animal to death, cut it up and stuff it. especially a cat. or put mice for puppet fingers and shit like that. in my eyes, i think thats far worse than testing makeup products on monkeys. a lot worse. the only reason why shes getting away with it is because shes from sweden, if she was from here shed be arrested. and about the beating with a stick, who knows maybe she didnt... but i doubt a person with the mind of thinking its okay to put cat's heads up on display and call it art would actually find the best way to kill the thing.

theres not even a point debating this whole thing, i mean you have to admit this whole thing is sick. what if she did that to dogs? wouldnt you be infuriated? its one thing to kill a chicken for food, its another to kill a cat and remove its head to call it art. its so disgusting.

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eatthesun118 October 30 2004, 11:32:25 UTC
hahahaha wow okay. first of all, an animal is an animal. it shouldnt matter to you what kind it is if youre so hot for animal rights. its like a person being all obsessed with gay rights, and a bisexual person is beaten and killed and the person says, "oh well. doesn't realy matter. after all, it's not like they were gayyy, they were bi!" who's to say a cat's life is more important than a monkeys? so i guess if this artist was cutting off the heads of sheep and monkeys and using them for art, we would all be fine, and the world would be a much better place. and lol i think you're being a littttle dramatic saying, "it could have been my cat." well its not your cat. your cats not from sweden; she's in the us where like you said, it's illegal. sooo it's all good. you can rest assured.

"... but i doubt a person with the mind of thinking its okay to put cat's heads up on display and call it art would actually find the best way to kill the thing."
^ that makes absolutely no sense and is completely and totally wrong. it just doesnt make any sense.

i never said it wasn't sick. if you read what i wrote before, you would have already known that. i said i thought it was wrong, but that she put up a good arguement with what she said. i wouldn't go as far as to say i was "infuriated", because animals are being killed everyday. yes, even cats. maybe not for a "valid reason" in ur opinion, and maybe not in the US, but what's the difference? oh yeah, i forgot- it could have been your cat. but lets say i was "infuriated", i wouldnt be any more "infuriated" if it were dogs. why? because either way, its an animal. it's still wrong.

here's a question- you're against abortion. well you're also not too fond of jews. if a jewish woman had an abortion? would you care any less?

p.s. if theres no point in debating, why are you posting sites to go against this woman?

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lil_el0 October 30 2004, 12:32:01 UTC
why cant i post sites against this women? its my belief that its disgusting. i said theres no point in debating cause itll go on forever. you can think your things and i can think mine...im not gonna keep going on and on. and to answer the question, just cause im not fond of jews doesnt necesarily mean im gonna kill all of them, so obviously i wouldnt support them getting abortions.

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eatthesun118 October 31 2004, 19:42:11 UTC
lmao wtf is ur problem. no ones saying you cant post sites against her. i couldnt really give a fuck less if you did or you didnt.im just saying, dont say theres no point in debating cause obviously there is if you're debating against her. doesnt make too much sense. as for the abortion thing, you totally missed the whole point so just forget about it. i didn't turn this into a "debate". all i said was she had a good point- you made it into one. laterrr

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skitzosavior October 30 2004, 13:26:27 UTC
lmao If a Jew had an abortion... rotflmao I'm sorry, it just sounds funny.

I think you're right in saying that an animal is an animal, and it shouldn't matter. I agree with you. I'm just as angered by the pictures of chickens as I am by the pictures of cats. Wow, that sounds really stupid. But I think it may be the cat heads that made Erin think the most. Those were the pictures that hit home for her, and I think that that's okay. I also think that the same people would be just as upset by mutliated sheep or cows as the sliced 'n diced pets.

And, I dunno, but something about this "art" irks me a lot. I KNOW how cruel fast food companies are; I KNOW that make-up brands test on animals. But those are businesses, you know? This woman calls herself an artist. It's my belief that art shouldn't be physically painful. I don't care if it depicts images you don't like, and I don't care if it's supposed to make you think, but it shouldn't cause real harm, you know? Maybe I'm crazy. So it just seems sort of wrong, especially when this woman could be doing all this digitally if she really wanted to. Hm. It's just not necessary, and it's kind of gross. Maybe if she didn't call it art, I'd just call her a sick fuck. Nah, I call her a sick fuck because she DOES call it art. Whatever, I'm not making any sense now. Ramble ramble ramble...

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