there's only so much you can miss / before we both collide

Oct 29, 2011 23:56

I JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY?

Or, a really ridiculous idea.

Either way, it was brought about by this interview with The Kills. They're asked how they can be so sexual even though they split up. (I love it when they're asked if they're a couple and stuff, it's so interesting to analyse their reactions.) Anyway, Jamie's like "We were never lovers" and the interviewer is like "Never?" and they're both like "Mm-mm, never" and then there's a pause, and Jamie goes "So...that's why." And then Alison cracks up and there's awkward laughter all round. (If you just want to watch that bit, there are little markers you can hover over to see which question is asked at each timestamp.)

This kind of reveals something about how Jamie sees the two of them and their sexuality, right? ...Right?


Because, like, okay. Jamie is stating that they can be sexual together because they have never been lovers. WHICH IS AN ODD THING TO SAY. Because if they had, at one point, been lovers, they could have been sexual together back then, surely? It's like he believes that if they DID become lovers, they wouldn't be able to be sexual onstage anymore-and like, maybe not even just if they became lovers and then split up, but full stop. Like he believes the only reason he's able to behave that way with Alison is because they've never been sexual irl. Which goes a little extra way towards explaining his resistance to being with her-like, he loves the onstage sexuality so much, he's afraid of losing that. It might not work in real life, so he's not going to risk throwing what they DO have away, if that makes sense?

So anyway I was thinking through all of that for a little while and trying to make sense of Jamie's weird, denial-addled brain, and I knew I was missing something else that the quote implies, and then it just HIT ME and I was like....woaaaah hold up.

BECAUSE THEY ARE NO LONGER SEXUAL ONSTAGE. And if my ridiculous dissection of Jamie's words is correct-doesn't that sort of imply that they are or have been lovers?

It's sort of like-man, this is a dumb example but it's all I can think of, you know in Friends when Chandler's dating Kathy? Who I still can't believe was played by Paget Brewster, but anyway-she's an actress, and she has a sex scene in this play she's doing, and Chandler's all freaked out, but Joey says it's fine because as long as there's passion onstage, they're not doing it in real life. And he warns him that as soon as the spark disappears onstage, that means it's transferred over and they're probably doing it for real. Which does make legitimate sense as a theory. (Although I might have bits of it wrong, it's been a long time since I saw the episode because STUPID E4 STOPPED SHOWING FRIENDS.)

Idk, idk, it doesn't make sense 100% for The Kills because that's actually a fairly recent interview, so the sexual tension onstage had already disappeared, and obviously Jamie's been with Kate all this time-but I just literally NEVER CONSIDERED this side of things. I always figured that the lack of sexual tension onstage meant something NEGATIVE about their real life relationship, but how fascinating would it be if it actually meant they were having sex for real now? Or, at the very least, that they did it ONCE and then decided it was a mistake, and the only thing it ruined was their dynamic onstage?

I guess it would be like-all the stuff onstage came from the fact that there was tension between them and all this desperate desire to be sexual with each other and that was the only way they could be, and if they started actually having sex there wouldn't be any mystery to it anymore and they wouldn't NEED the stage stuff. OR, suddenly they're much more aware of the stage dynamic than they used to be-like before, it didn't matter if people thought they were fucking because they weren't, but now they ARE and it has to be kept a secret.

Does this make sense to anyone but me? I am probably just grasping at straws because I'm just so heartbroken about the way they act onstage now. I mean, a lot of the time Jamie even angles his microphone so he's singing away from Alison in a way that just seems so deliberate. It's not like they never ever look at each other or touch each other, but it's SO much less than it used to be, and I don't understand why no one else seems to be noticing this stuff. Even though it would probably be HORRIBLY awkward, I just wish one interviewer would be like "yo guys, what happened to all that pseudo-sex you used to have?"

And I mean, it goes without saying that I want fic. It's ridiculous how many Kills/Dead Weather related ideas I have right now, but this is definitely being added to a list.

I got really excited when I saw that they'd started playing 'Last Day of Magic' again, because that's one of the main ones they always used to get intense about, but I mean, compare this performance from yesterday with this one from 2008. At 2:18 Alison approaches Jamie and he literally like, darts away from her. IT MAKES ME WANT TO CRY. AND THAT'S JUST ONE TINY EXAMPLE.

The rest of the interview I linked to up top is pretty cute/interesting by the way-they joke around a bit and are adorable, but I also get a vibe like they're not quite on the same wavelength with the questions. Plus there's the bit where Jamie goes on and on about things crumbling and decaying, and how good it is when things come to an end and rot (wtf, Jamie?), and then there's a long pause and the interviewer wants Alison's opinion and she's like *over-the-top smile* "...I think he answered it pretty well."

:'(

Anyway, I'll leave you with a picture, for your time:



I can't even really go 'aww' at this kind of thing anymore, it just makes me want to hit things.

They really do drive me crazy sometimes. MAKE SENSE.

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