lovers i loved less than anybody could afford

Sep 05, 2011 14:45

More Weeds rambling! I bet you're shocked. At this point, I'm basically only talking about the Botwins and how they feel about each other, partly because that's the most interesting part of the show to me, and partly because there are so many layers and things going on in Weeds that if I focus on everything I get sort of overwhelmed. Plus, y'know, then these posts would probably be twice as long. So yeah, not genuine recaps at all! Just me talking about things I really like. Again, not terribly surprising.





7x07: Vehement vs. Vigorous

An episode that starts with Silas calling Nancy 'Nance' is a good episode. I like that Nancy half-heartedly corrects him. And it seems more casual than it ever has, like he's no longer just saying it to get a rise out of her, that's just her name to him now. Idk idk one of my favourite things for some reason. ALSO she uses 'face cream' as code for weed and that's totally what she says she was in Mexico for, back in season 4 with all the smuggling stuff. A+ CONTINUITY ONCE AGAIN.

SHANE IS SO PROUD OF WHAT HE'S DOING TO HELP NANCY. And he's still totally competing with Silas. "Silas is waiting for you. He looks kinda crazy." And Silas did look kinda crazy. God, I love how ridiculously obsessive he is about all of this, like, especially having rewatched the earlier seasons and seen that this is how it's been for so long. Back in season 2 he's already wanting to work with her, and even when it fails he keeps coming back, and basically being Nancy's business partner is ALL HE WANTS IN LIFE, so of course he's going to throw himself into it 100%. But it all has to be on his terms, because he's scared of it getting screwed up again. And it's all like this contrast between how badly he wants to work with her, and how much he still resents her, and it's like he's trying to prove himself to her and prove that he doesn't need to prove himself to her all at the same time.



Nancy: I'm sorry, are you hiding my weed from me?
Silas: I created it, I harvested it, I transported it all the way across the country-you mean my weed?
(...)
Nancy: I can't do this right now. I have a son I'd really like to get custody of, I have a halfway house I'd really like to get the fuck out of, I need money flowing now.
Silas: Well, good luck with that.

I LOVE the moment where she tells him to get some sleep or at least comb his hair, because it's like this last-ditch effort at being his Mom, and he just completely ignores her, and it's probably not the first time that's happened but it hurts. And he's ignoring her in such a deliberate way, too, like making himself look super-busy, but the moment the door shuts behind her he pauses and glances up, and then messes with his hair a little bit. ♥

Ffffff and then the whole boxing scene OH MY GOD. First of all: hnnnng Hunter Parrish plz beat people up more often. BUT ALSO. He agrees to the deal (to get beaten, basically), and actually has a fair amount riding on that, because making this business thing work is really important to him and he really needs these messengers. Like, every scene of his in this episode so far has emphasized what a big deal it is to him-he's losing sleep, he's getting obsessive, and now he's willing to get beaten up for it.

BUT THEN. The other guy is like "Orders from a girl, huh? No, it's cool, I get it, she's your sugar momma. Momma's boy." AND SILAS FLIPS THE FUCK OUT. Hit a nerve there, I guess. But ugh, it shows just how mad he is, that he's willing to jeopardize the deal he made, just because he is that pissed about being called a Momma's boy. Silaaaaaas. Issues. I love it. (I also love that afterwards, the modeling agent woman (does she even have a name?) is like "Nah, that was really hot, so we're cool.")



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7x08: Synthetics

First of all: I LOVE THAT NANCY IS FUCKING SIBLINGS. I guess it taps into the incest thing somehow, because I think it is awesome. I mean, Demetri totally watched when Nancy and Zoya had sex, right? That was implied? WHO DOES THAT. And I loved the way they were bickering like actual siblings do. I do think it's kind of gross that Nancy "didn't get what she came for" as though lesbian sex could never measure up to a dick, but then again, I guess it makes sense for Nancy to feel that way. She said the sex she had with a girl in college was "boring", and was probably only fucking Zoya in prison because there were no men to fuck. But still, idk, rubbed me the wrong way. Especially considering she went right from one to the other-I know Zoya seems slightly unhinged but I still feel kind of sorry for her.



Shane's storyline is boring me a little bit, which is sad because he's my favourite, but I think he's more interesting when he's actively trying to get Nancy to fall madly in love with him. Or doing crazy shit. The conversation about all his Dads being dead amused me though.

I LOVE that Silas was the first to see Nancy arrive home with her date, like-man, the way he's basically just like "I do not care who you are. I do not even want to know your name. You are my Mom's date tonight and that's all I need to know to want you out of here right this second, okay, bye."



HOW AWESOME WAS THAT LAST SCENE? SO MUCH DRAMA. I loved it. Throughout most of the episode, I was kiiind of like "eh", and I love how whenever that happens, the show turns it around and does something awesome and unexpected. Kinda wish Shane had been there though. And oh my god, Zoya, knowing Andy and Silas already because obviously she's seen pictures and Nancy has told her about them. Lololol Silas's reaction to her kissing his cheeks. And when Zoya kisses Nancy, I love that Silas is just like O_O before he realises that probably he shouldn't watch. Man, why was that moment the best? I really don't know, but it was.

Also:

Zoya: I'm sorry, you might want to go away, because I don't like you, and I have a bad habit of losing things I don't like in fires.

I kind of love her a little bit. And wasn't it cute how the person putting the ornaments on the shelf during the credits was humming 'Little Boxes'?

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7x09: Cats! Cats! Cats!



Nancy: I get it, okay? You want my attention. You wanna build me a bedroom, send me your puppet reviews, I get it. What do you need? I'm listening!
Shane: Let me be more than your bank. You keep partnering up with the wrong son, I can be your man on the inside. The cops think I'm one of them. You want Zoya to go back to prison? I know a guy in narcotics who can plant evidence. They're gonna be onto you eventually. I'll protect you.
Nancy: Babe. These are cops. I'm a drug dealer. You're a murderer. We can't all play on the same kickball team.
Shane: I can do this.

Oh god, Shane! He just wants to protect her, so badly, and he wants to be the son she partners up with and he just wants to prove himself to her. And it's frustrating, because she shoots him down without really giving it much thought-she just sees it in black and white, like, involving the police? NO WAY. And as hilarious and awesome as that 'kickball team' line is, it's so harsh, because it's condescending and that's like the last reaction Shane wants-to be talked down to, after all he's trying to do for her.

And jesus, that 'let me be more than your bank' line, it's LOADED. Right? She's finally asking him what he really wants from her, acknowledging the things he's been doing instead of just turning a blind eye to the slight weirdness of it-and I don't know, the phrasing of the line is clever. Instead of him saying "I want to work with the police in order to protect you" or even something vague like "I need you to trust me" he basically says "let me be more to you than I am already." It's just really interesting. And her reaction is to sort of look away from him and sigh, and it's before he's even explained what he really means.

I also like that apparently, at some point, someone has explained to him who Zoya is. I mean, he hasn't met her, but he knows a) her name, b) that she was in prison with Nancy, and c) that Nancy might want to get rid of her. I wanna know who relayed the story of last night to him, because I bet that would have been HILARIOUS to see. Can you imagine Silas being like "so uh, then she made out with Mom in front of all of us."

Anyway, Shane's ridiculous undying love for Nancy and his desperation to do anything and everything for her continues to be my favourite aspect of this show. And speaking of 'building her a bedroom', SAID BEDROOM IS STILL INTACT. And there are two other beds in the room and a HAMMOCK and I really want to believe that Shane has been reduced to sleeping in a hammock because he ran out of money spending it all on Nancy's bedroom. But moving on.



GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION ON THEIR COMPETITION. I mean, as it turns out, that was a dumb move, but the actual fact that he did it in the first place = ♥ And I love how Andy's so impressed.

Shane: Is that it? Your transmitter over there, underneath the clothes you threw off last night?
Andy: While you were changing into a hussy?
Nancy: (sighs) I don't know what I'd do without you.
Andy: Um, Zoya needs to go, Nance. She's a plague on both our houses.
Nancy: I'll take care of it.
Andy: How?
Nancy: I don't know, but I told you I'll take care of it.
Andy: Look, Shane, your Mom's making promises.

Shane's so quietly smug at first, so pleased that they're impressed but also kind of wishing Nancy would acknowledge that he did this for her-like, she's just focusing on what it means for her (obviously). And so then he points out her lost transmitter, like if she won't appreciate a grand gesture maybe she'll appreciate a small one, and this time she says she doesn't know what she'd do without him. But it's half-sarcastic, in response to the two of them mocking her.

Whiiich, alsjasklj, I love it when that happens. I mean, I actually get really pissed off when people talk about Nancy being a slut and how she should shut her legs and she'll stop getting into trouble (seriously, I see that kind of thing ALL THE TIME on Tumblr UGH STFU WITH YOUR MISOGYNY, PEOPLE) but I kind of like it when Andy and Silas and Shane tease her about uh...her sexuality, I guess? I mean, they're not saying the same kinds of things, and I don't know what I mean, it's just such a thing. Because generally, in Normal Land, guys don't really want to acknowledge that their Mom might have sex. And if they watched her throw off her clothes, they probably would want to pretend that it never happened. But it's like back in season...3? When she comes home and strips off in front of them all and jumps into the pool. It's like for Shane, that's just normal Nancy behaviour instead of inappropriate Mom behaviour, and it's something to mock bitterly instead of be awkward about.

Ramble ramble. Also the "look, Shane, your Mom's making promises" and Shane's resulting sigh/expression. HEARTBREAK, HEARTBREAK EVERYWHERE.

Man, this episode was good, okay, because then there's the whole conversation between Silas and Emma that goes like this:

Emma: You guys seem really big and corporate, I wouldn't wanna get lost in the shuffle.
Silas: It's just me and Nancy.
Emma: Who's Nancy?
Silas: My Mom.
Emma: (cracking up) You don't-you run this thing with your Mom? HA. That's adorable. Just you and your Mom. Named Nancy.
Silas: You laugh, she's a professional.
Emma: You guys grow your own stuff?
Silas: No. But our strains are exclusive. I created one myself.
Emma: Huh. What's it called?
Silas: MILF.
Emma: As in 'mother I'd like to fuck'? (Silas nods) This just got weird.

DAMN RIGHT IT DID, EMMA. I love this conversation sfm. Silas is so PROUD of himself, like, he's not ashamed that he works with his Mom-he's a little hesitant to tell this girl he might potentially sleep with, but instead of being like "lol I know it's kinda lame" he stands up for Nancy, says she's a professional. And god, his body language when the whole MILF thing comes up-he's too caught up in showing off about ~creating his own strain~ that when Emma asks what it's called he's kind of like "oh, shit" and he tries to play it off all casual and he just seems kind of sheepish. But the best part is that he doesn't bother to explain, I mean, not that there IS much of an explanation, but he doesn't even say "we didn't name it ourselves!", he just moves right on. I LOVE that, that he's starting to feel like he doesn't owe anyone an explanation for the Botwin weirdness.

As a sidenote: Silas is such an idiot, this season. I mean, okay, Shane did something stupid too, but SILAS YOU ARE SUCH A FOOL. AND JUST BECAUSE SHE'S PRETTY. God dammit.

But I did enjoy the fact that he apparently fucked her while Andy and Nancy drank red wine out of coffee mugs JUST INSIDE. I mean, the door is open, they are just around the corner, in earshot. I love this family. Also, when Silas comes in the next morning, he says "Morning, Mom." ♥ That whole bit was such a tiny thing, in the grand scheme of it all, but the little moments where they're being more like a family again, and stuff like Nancy actually sleeping over there...it just makes me miss the way they were constantly together in season 6.

AND FINALLY, umbrrrayla pointed me towards this amazing interview with Jenji Kohan. Oh god. I QUOTE:

Jenji: In a lot of ways, Emma is a mini-Nancy. She's a female presence, she's a Queen Bee, she's running a drug operation, [Silas] gets to fuck her which is nice...who knows what feelings he has for his mother.

!!! I just. I WANT TO JUST THANK HER FOR SAYING THAT. Because it's like, she does actually have these things in mind, she's tackling the issue of the boys having sexual feelings for Nancy, and it's not just something they played as a shock tactic in a couple of episodes, you know? It's a totally understandable route to go down, w/r/t Nancy's terrible parenting, and they haven't shied away from that even when it gets squicky. It's not been forgotten, it still kind of guides the choices Silas and Shane make. Like maybe if this were any other girl, Silas would've used his head a bit more. (Maybe.) But because she reminds him of Nancy, he kind of blindly goes along with her.

It's also nice to have it confirmed like that, even though she's being a little coy about it, like saying no one QUITE knows what Silas feels for his mother but he's fucking a mini-Nancy so we can draw our own conclusions. But yeah, because before that there was just the whole Lisa thing, and while they implied that she was a Nancy-replacement too, it was less obvious than say, Shane masturbating to photos of his mother. So now it's kind of like, yes, they do both have sexual feelings for her, you're not seeing things that aren't there.

Alsooo, then she says it's just more 'family intrigue' for the rest of the season, 'dealing with familial crap that has built up that has not been dealt with enough'. WHICH IS NEWS THAT THRILLS ME, OBVIOUSLY. ♥

! [character] weeds: nancy, ! (picspam), ! [fandom] weeds, ! [character] weeds: andy, ! [ship] weeds: silas/nancy, ! [character] weeds: shane, ! (meta), ! [ship] weeds: shane/nancy, ! [character] weeds: silas

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