In conversation with quiet_faerie about my last post I finally decided to continue with my view on Religion and Christ and its role in the conscious and bun conscious
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I enjoy and encourage you to post replies, and will be receptive to everything you have to say. On many accounts I agree with you, as many as I differ from you with. And I stress the point most of this is musing rather than conviction.
I have not reached my opinions on the Catholic Church without consulting their congregation, the clergy and historians personally. And I think you'd be suprized that me and the "Holy Father" share many common views and standpoints on many things, and I do not discredit those of faith, but you must understand I do not trust organizations of power who abuse faith to reach their own gains. The Catholic Church is a organization of power, they do not renounce their wealth or influence to follow a path of a true Christian, but claim their vantage point allows them to reach more people. This seems a bit suspect to me. Charity is the all time scapegoat for people to influence their power and come off as heros. The view of the Church from an inside standpoint is far different than that from an outside point, ane every group claims misrepresentation. So doubts will always linger twards men who weild swords and offer a hand.
America, the bastard son of Europe has been called the progressive state, and yet there is more moral influence and enforcement here than cultures melinia beyond us. So understand some of my issues also come from American standpoint. I've heard a lot recently, that America will lead Eurpoe out of it's moral darkness. As that our morality is the next step in world evolution, and this I sincerely doubt, as I watch the most fundamental of fundamentalists crumble one by one to a path of forgiveness and acceptance of others, something the "Church" doesn't exactly make an example of themselvs for. And the reasoning I believe is admittance of wrongdoing always begins questioning of power and loss of influence. The Roman Catholic reign is almost to an end and it is fighting tooth and nail against it's demise. I believe Christianity will prevail for years to come, but I see a unity coming, and the only secular and polarized icon of Christianity would be the Vatican. When it falls you will see your unified group of faith, and I hope for humanity's sake they keep the example of Christ.
I do not condem Christians who enjoy fantasy, newage, magic, quite the opposite. I feel if there is a place unexplored inside you the best course of action would be to explore it and try to reach an understanding that Magic is real, exists in all of us and the source would be that of "God" however you know him. We are more than flesh and earth. Science is not just an enemy of the Church, but of Man by laying rules that lead us further and further away from the spirit (our own and others) and designed to make us mechanical and powerless. It has it's place but is just as flawed, self defeating, and dangerous as most any organized religion. A new method of control.
Again I state the Church of Christ is not the Catholic Church, that is a perversion of the Church you and Christ spoke of. And questions of faith cannot be explained in scripture. Questions of men cannot be answered with Christ. When someone poses "how do you know?" and you answer "god says" you reenforce that polatiry between religions, believers and non-believers.
If you went on a quest of spirituality and found a place you are honestly confortable with I can say at the very least you have spirituality, wich many Americans, expecially Christians do not. But I maintain it was limited for means of controll. Kings wrote law, Kings wrote scripture, Kings revised and translated. Kings controled man with the religions in place. Kings continue to do so to this day. Where you see an attack on your faith, I only attack your leaders and their history.
I enjoy and encourage you to post replies, and will be receptive to everything you have to say. On many accounts I agree with you, as many as I differ from you with. And I stress the point most of this is musing rather than conviction.
I have not reached my opinions on the Catholic Church without consulting their congregation, the clergy and historians personally. And I think you'd be suprized that me and the "Holy Father" share many common views and standpoints on many things, and I do not discredit those of faith, but you must understand I do not trust organizations of power who abuse faith to reach their own gains. The Catholic Church is a organization of power, they do not renounce their wealth or influence to follow a path of a true Christian, but claim their vantage point allows them to reach more people. This seems a bit suspect to me. Charity is the all time scapegoat for people to influence their power and come off as heros. The view of the Church from an inside standpoint is far different than that from an outside point, ane every group claims misrepresentation. So doubts will always linger twards men who weild swords and offer a hand.
America, the bastard son of Europe has been called the progressive state, and yet there is more moral influence and enforcement here than cultures melinia beyond us. So understand some of my issues also come from American standpoint. I've heard a lot recently, that America will lead Eurpoe out of it's moral darkness. As that our morality is the next step in world evolution, and this I sincerely doubt, as I watch the most fundamental of fundamentalists crumble one by one to a path of forgiveness and acceptance of others, something the "Church" doesn't exactly make an example of themselvs for. And the reasoning I believe is admittance of wrongdoing always begins questioning of power and loss of influence. The Roman Catholic reign is almost to an end and it is fighting tooth and nail against it's demise. I believe Christianity will prevail for years to come, but I see a unity coming, and the only secular and polarized icon of Christianity would be the Vatican. When it falls you will see your unified group of faith, and I hope for humanity's sake they keep the example of Christ.
I do not condem Christians who enjoy fantasy, newage, magic, quite the opposite. I feel if there is a place unexplored inside you the best course of action would be to explore it and try to reach an understanding that Magic is real, exists in all of us and the source would be that of "God" however you know him. We are more than flesh and earth. Science is not just an enemy of the Church, but of Man by laying rules that lead us further and further away from the spirit (our own and others) and designed to make us mechanical and powerless. It has it's place but is just as flawed, self defeating, and dangerous as most any organized religion. A new method of control.
Again I state the Church of Christ is not the Catholic Church, that is a perversion of the Church you and Christ spoke of. And questions of faith cannot be explained in scripture. Questions of men cannot be answered with Christ. When someone poses "how do you know?" and you answer "god says" you reenforce that polatiry between religions, believers and non-believers.
If you went on a quest of spirituality and found a place you are honestly confortable with I can say at the very least you have spirituality, wich many Americans, expecially Christians do not. But I maintain it was limited for means of controll. Kings wrote law, Kings wrote scripture, Kings revised and translated. Kings controled man with the religions in place. Kings continue to do so to this day. Where you see an attack on your faith, I only attack your leaders and their history.
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