On Reading in Dreams

Aug 13, 2007 09:24

This morning, while dreaming, I was reminded of a skill I lack in dreams. I am rather incapable of reading ( Read more... )

dreams, self-observation, memory, polls, reading

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thefaeway August 13 2007, 15:02:26 UTC
I'd respond to your linked post, but it's so old, I'll just go ahead and mention it here. Your "power" you mention is called lucid dreaming, is it not? When you realize you are dreaming, you have complete control over your dream. You can go to a new place, talk to whoever you want, make them say whatever you want, etc. It is, yes, a small question of willpower once you've made the realization.

If you want to practice waking yourself up, just go to sleep worried about what time you need to get up. Make an appointment for early, then stay up late and believe your alarm clock unable to wake you. You will wake yourself from your dream, thinking "I'm asleep, I need to wake up to do x." You will not just do this once, but once every few hours. Intentionally waking yourself from a dream severely disturbs the quality of rest, it's like being woken by an outside force - you.

It may not happen the first night, but after two or three nights of missing an alarm, it tends to seep into your subconcious.

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lhynard August 14 2007, 18:30:23 UTC
Yes, I'd not heard that term -- or forgotten it -- before, but I am a lucid dreamer. However, I usually have to be dreaming and figure it out first before suddenly having the ability to change them. I also have to fight against my dream. My ability seems to be improving, but I still "lose" sometimes. So I would not say that I ever have complete control over my dreams. It is a matter of will power. It is hard to do, because I have to stuggle to maintain logical thought while still asleep.

One of the problems I have in waking myself up is that I'll wake up from a dream within a dream -- or one, two, or three withing that one.

And yes, I have noticed that I get far less rest if I am trying to wake myself.

Are you also a lucid dreamer?

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thefaeway August 15 2007, 06:31:25 UTC
I'm lazy while I'm sleeping, I don't want to work. :D That means that unless I come by lucidity somehow naturally, I don't force it. I do find myself in dreams where I control my own behavior. In these dreams I do not realize I am dreaming, so I explore my environment in an effort to gather as much information as I can. This is a form of lucid dreaming -- baby steps, I s'pose.

Certainly there are times where one controls their own behavior in a non-lucid state, but it's the intentional collection of data that makes that little difference, I think.

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lhynard August 15 2007, 13:44:24 UTC
I think another difference is that lucid dreamers can change their environment and "break rules". I've willed doors to appear in walls so I can exit, for example, or decided to up and fly.

I'm lazy to; I want my dreams to be relaxing. Unfortunately, illogical anything disturbs me to the point that it no longer feels restful. It's kind of an annoying factor. Works the same way for movies with me. Screwball comedies, for example, rarely entertain me.

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shadewright August 15 2007, 20:06:26 UTC
Unfortunately, illogical anything disturbs me to the point that it no longer feels restful.

OH! So THAT's why you insist on waking up. If not for that, I still think you would rest very well by not fighting the dream. Your subconscious probably fights back because it knows you need to sleep...

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lhynard August 17 2007, 14:01:14 UTC
Yeah, that's partly why.

I think you're right about why my body fights back. I've considered talking to a doctor about my dreaming.

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