Taxation

[level_head]

Progressive statists tend to think of Constitutional conservatives holding the notion that "all taxes are theft." This is not a position held by us in general, and it is instead a strawman created to attack us. Here is my thinking on the topic:

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[deckardcanine]

You'd best delete your previous post, which is the same thing in a larger font.

Nice to know something positive about Grover Cleveland. Split terms, initial bachelorhood, and a bastard child are not the most desirable distinctions (tho winning anyway is an achievement).

I know of a few individuals who declare all taxation theft, and one is on a forum I attend. He does not appear to be a card-carrying Republican, and his reasoning skills leave other conservatives unimpressed. In particular, he tries to invoke a dogmatic sense of authority without citing support from the Constitution, the Bible, or anything else. He even made up terms, disagreeing that their lack of prior existence suggested a lack of authority behind the concepts. (To his credit, he's abandoned those terms and finds them an embarrassing subject.)

[level_head]

I have a tremendously positive perception of Grover Cleveland.

And it seems that he did not have a bastard child, but rather took responsibility for one to protect a friend. Look at all of his capabilities and character traits; we have a great difficulty producing such men today.

You can find all sorts of attitudes out there, but Tea Party folks, more or less synonymous with Constitutional conservatives, are not in the "all taxation is theft" category. It IS a phrase associated with the Sovereign Citizen movement - which I have big problems with. That way lies anarchy.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

[deckardcanine]

OT: A new study in Nature Geoscience has found ice melting on the eastern side of Antarctica, not just the west as previously thought. It also claims that gravity makes the U.S. especially vulnerable to sea level rises from Antarctic melting.

Elsewhere in today's news, famished sea lion pups have been coming to California. Theory has it that warmer waters have induced them to get weaned earlier and migrate with barely enough sustenance.

I await your rebuttal.

[level_head]

The doomsday pronouncements are endless. They were so utterly wrong about a million different dooms so far; their track record means that you can reliably say "they're almost certainly wrong" as a starting point. They don't seek data beyond what they can use for a pronouncement - which means a grant.

For example, what was the rate of incoming "famished sea lion pups" in the 1930s when it was much warmer than now? They don't know, don't care; they have a supposition (not even a hypothesis) that can implicate Global Warming so they are done.

There are websites that collect thousands of failed climate predictions of disaster. You can amuse yourself on such places, but one thing to notice is that both sides of many disasters are predicted. If lobsters get bigger, Global Warming caused it. If lobsters get smaller, Global Warming caused it. And so on.

"Rebuttals" of such nonsense are fairly pointless; there's no end. But they're done, nonetheless. Far better to get back to doing science.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

[ext_1399643]

A growing animal is famished? What is remarkable about that? Don't these people have any children?

Predators have never experienced a rise or fall in the supply of what they eat. Good grief! Even people have always had trouble finding enough to eat, and that was before anyone thought we were overpopulating the planet.

Anyway, even if the comments got sidetracked, that's a great post on taxation. What is there to argue with?