Follow Up on Jules Manson from SupportAtheism.com
The current editor of SupportAtheism.com notes that Jules Manson was removed from that organization for similar racist behavior.
But he also complains that characterizing Manson as “Tea Party” is wrong:
Greetins Mr. Mo,
FYI, Jules was removed from his association with SupportAtheism.com and the affiliated Atheist months ago due to similar racist behavior.
We have a zero tolerance policy for racism in our community.
But, also I can say from knowing Jules a bit in a professional capacity and reviewing some of his submissions that were political - that he was his own weird extreme kind of libertarian - as far as I know - and granted I removed him and blocked him months ago - he does not identify as a Tea Party member, and in fact spoke derisively of them.
His behavior is reprehensible and perhaps deserves the level of pushback he is getting - but unless he has changed in the last few months- the attempt to paint him as a Tea Party enthusiast is dishonest and short sighted. If anything Jules identifies as a libertarian of an individualistic variety.
I despise the Tea Party, am disgusted by Jules’ behavior, and find hardcore Libertarians to be as guilty of starry eyed idealistic magical thinking as some theists - but I am a big fan of honesty and getting the facts straight.
Best Wishes,
Jacob Kramer
Senior Editor and Co-Founder.
SupportAtheism.com
The reply to this statement is that the Kramer is wrong, basically because if the man hates Obama, he must be part of the Tea Party whether he likes the Tea Party or not. Similarly, if the Tea Party ever expressed support for him, then he is a Tea Party member. Leftist logic, I suppose: a poor structure built upon a false premise. Using that same process, you could … never mind.
There is more back-and-forth, but the man with the facts is ignored by the person with the feeling that he MUST be a Tea Party guy. The proof? This image, apparently:
Since this indicates that he’s affiliated with GreeneWave (a blog that seems to assert that Pat Tillman was assassinated by the Bush Administration) and SupportAtheism, he must be part of the the conservative, generally Christian Tea Party.
And this militant atheist Bush-hating conspiracy-mongering racist who wants rent control and price controls is nothing to do with the Left, no sir! (In fact, he’s all over the place, politically; he was described as “his own unique kind of libertarian” by the SupportAtheism editor.
UPDATE: The site that broke this story originally is called the “Democrat Examiner” - and apparently, Jules Manson is also a columnist there. Manson has now appeared and apologized for his comment:
Once you have taken the position that anyone should be imprisoned for careless emotionally driven remarks that had no real substance, you deserve what your government has become. All I can really say is to be careful what you wish for because setting such a precedence can come back to bite you. I have felt deeply regretful and apologized for my past mistakes. Can you do the same? (Jules Manson at the Democrat Examiner website)
The original comment was in extremely bad taste, unarguably racist and inciting in nature … but was more of a rhetorical than direct threat, it seems to me. We’ll see what happens. Most of the people on the Democrat Examiner site are calling for him to go to jail, not realizing that his positions are closer to their than would be comfortable.
===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle
Originally published at DeHavelle.com. You can comment here or there.