I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But then again, I also think that I'm better than a lot of people.
I mean, we are all going to be "better" or "worse" than other people no matter if we THINK it or not. Maybe the difference between being better than someone and thinking you're better than someone is just the vocalization of it. Perhaps the ones who vocalize are just douchebags. Hehheh..
Also, LJ seems to have gone all lovely dovey heartsy all of a sudden. Just thought I'd mention that since it happened as I went to post a comment on your page. Sorta caught me off guard. hah.
PS- Are you seriously in Costa Rica now? Or am I just misinterpreting what you said? Salsa is fun-- I learned a few moves myself last semester. =P
No, I'm going to Costa Rica at the end of February.
The only difference I can see between thinking that one is better than another person and vocalizing it is that one act is private, and the other is public. I'm thinking about writing my feelings on the idea of the public versus the private, but is there REALLY a difference in this case between vocalizing and thinking this thing?
Ever heard of false modesty? What makes modesty false, if not the inner belief that the modesty one displays is not a true reflection of one's ability?
False modesty... *sigh* I suppose so, though it wouldn't be modesty at all then sooo I'm not sure if that would really apply.
I had to go back and reread what we had written, since I had lost my train of thought since we started this conversation....
What I guess I will say is this: If you simply THINK you are better than others, but choose not to speak about it, you are doing others a favor by not annoying them with your bragging. (This is a general "you" by the way, not YOU in particular. =P) But you can SPEAK about how you are better and -- voila-- you get people complaining about it. *shrug*
Braaaaaaagh. I'm thinking about whether there's something inherently wrong with thinking that one is better than other people.
I'm not saying, "I think I am better than Billy at soccer." I'm saying, "Gosh, when you open your mouth to speak, I think I smell human garbage. Maybe you're autistic, or a bastard, but jeezus." Really, no, that's hyperbolic, and maybe a person's full worth can't be known by anyone, even themselves, since it's composed of so many things, it's hard to calculate the worth of potential actions, and any real measurement would probably be on an arbitrary scale, but...
The question isn't, "Is it wrong to think that one is better than others and not say it?" The question is "Is it inherently wrong to think that one is better than someone else?"
Re: haha. oh.starkmadgeminiFebruary 17 2007, 19:10:41 UTC
Well in THAT case, no I don't think its inherently wrong to think anything. To act upon certain thoughts might be wrong, but thinking-- I don't think any of it can really be inherently wrong. But who knows?!
And if I thought you hated me because of our conversations... well I'd be pretty silly... unless you really DID hate me because of our 'debates' you'd be pretty durn foolish. =p
The idea that only an action that springs from a thought can be wrong is interesting, but the fact that probably all actions are connected with thoughts creates a relationship between action and thought. I am relatively sure I am not in complete control of my "unthinking" actions, or actions I do not consider beforehand, but that they are based on prior beliefs or thoughts, which I am in control of, and are thus responsible for the action. Thus, if a thought causes a certain unthinking action that is inherently wrong, might not that thought be inherently wrong?
Or are we only responsible for our actions, and not for our thoughts or our thoughts that lead to actions?
Re: haha. oh.starkmadgeminiFebruary 20 2007, 19:33:59 UTC
*sigh* okay. this is the THIRD time that I am trying to make my reply here. Fucking a. Goddamn internet and buttons and BLAH!
I am going to make this short now, and perhaps we can discuss it at length next time you're online.
Yes: we are only responsible for our actions-- those that was have consciously made, at least-- and cannot control the thoughts and images that pass freely through our minds throughout the day. Images are constantly in our minds that we are unaware of, according to my prof of my fantasy and imagination psych class, and we are not aware of these images because we keep ourselves busy. That's that for now.
But then again, I also think that I'm better than a lot of people.
I mean, we are all going to be "better" or "worse" than other people no matter if we THINK it or not. Maybe the difference between being better than someone and thinking you're better than someone is just the vocalization of it. Perhaps the ones who vocalize are just douchebags. Hehheh..
Also, LJ seems to have gone all lovely dovey heartsy all of a sudden. Just thought I'd mention that since it happened as I went to post a comment on your page. Sorta caught me off guard. hah.
PS- Are you seriously in Costa Rica now? Or am I just misinterpreting what you said? Salsa is fun-- I learned a few moves myself last semester. =P
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The only difference I can see between thinking that one is better than another person and vocalizing it is that one act is private, and the other is public. I'm thinking about writing my feelings on the idea of the public versus the private, but is there REALLY a difference in this case between vocalizing and thinking this thing?
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I had to go back and reread what we had written, since I had lost my train of thought since we started this conversation....
What I guess I will say is this: If you simply THINK you are better than others, but choose not to speak about it, you are doing others a favor by not annoying them with your bragging. (This is a general "you" by the way, not YOU in particular. =P) But you can SPEAK about how you are better and -- voila-- you get people complaining about it. *shrug*
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I'm not saying, "I think I am better than Billy at soccer." I'm saying, "Gosh, when you open your mouth to speak, I think I smell human garbage. Maybe you're autistic, or a bastard, but jeezus." Really, no, that's hyperbolic, and maybe a person's full worth can't be known by anyone, even themselves, since it's composed of so many things, it's hard to calculate the worth of potential actions, and any real measurement would probably be on an arbitrary scale, but...
The question isn't, "Is it wrong to think that one is better than others and not say it?" The question is "Is it inherently wrong to think that one is better than someone else?"
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To act upon certain thoughts might be wrong, but thinking-- I don't think any of it can really be inherently wrong.
But who knows?!
And if I thought you hated me because of our conversations... well I'd be pretty silly... unless you really DID hate me because of our 'debates' you'd be pretty durn foolish. =p
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Or are we only responsible for our actions, and not for our thoughts or our thoughts that lead to actions?
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I am going to make this short now, and perhaps we can discuss it at length next time you're online.
Yes: we are only responsible for our actions-- those that was have consciously made, at least-- and cannot control the thoughts and images that pass freely through our minds throughout the day.
Images are constantly in our minds that we are unaware of, according to my prof of my fantasy and imagination psych class, and we are not aware of these images because we keep ourselves busy.
That's that for now.
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Hey, I'm getting the hang of the new Newspeak.
I think a little bit of me just died.
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