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So I was talking to my_daroga the other day and we each thought of something there needs to be fic for. Mine was silly but when I couldn't get to sleep last night in PMS-induced insomnia, I decided there were all sorts of things that should have fic, and don't, and if there is you need to point me to it, and then I need to whine about how there's not enough
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EVERYTIME I THINK I LOVE YOU YOU DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME LOVE YOU MORE
*pant*
Okay, Mists of Avalon is still totally awesome, and I know because despite the fact I TOO read it in 7th grade, I have read it since and it worked EVERY SINGLE TIME.
And... I know there's a buffy/poto thing in me somewhere, I just haven't found it yet.
More later.
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That is *so* crazy you read MoA at the same age I did. I always thought it was quite young, not so much insofar as reading level, but content. It took me FOREVER to figure it out it was a take on the King Arthur legend--as I wasn't that familiar with the legend itself. What's funny is my love for that book has never flagged--when they came out with the new edition hardcover several years back I bought it straight away. I've just never read it again out of fear. I'm glad you still love it upon rereading--I'll have to brave it some day!
And... I know there's a buffy/poto thing in me somewhere, I just haven't found it yet.
awesome. Even more awesome than the AtS vid in my head to the tune of ALW's "Angel of Music". *nods*
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Yes, I did! And I totally forgot to answer any of my email. Heh.
My 7th grade social studies teacher gave me the book to read. I realize now she was this hippie lesbian person, but at the time I wasn't thinking about that. I just read it, and let my eyeballs fall out. First sex inna book, for me. I think.
People above have noted being turned off by the style... I don't know. Last time I read it was probably 4 years ago, and I still really really loved it. Funny thing was, I checked it out at the library so I could keep one copy at work and have one at home. But when I got home, I found the book open on Sean's bed. He'd started it the same day as me!
Even more awesome than the AtS vid in my head to the tune of ALW's "Angel of Music".I... don't know how that works. Hmm ( ... )
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I can't believe your 7th grade *teacher* gave you that book. It was the most sex I'd read in a book up 'til then, too.
So funny you started rereading same day as Mr. Daroga!
You don't know how it works that Angel is the Angel of Music? And Spike spends all day singing about him? Really? 0_o
I reread NIMH just a couple years ago. I shipped Mrs. Frisby/Justin movieverse too. Cross-species romance! But the book is so much better than the movie. I disliked that amulet thing.
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You don't know how it works that Angel is the Angel of Music? And Spike spends all day singing about him? Really? 0_o
How did you know what expression I had on my face? Incredible!
But the book is so much better than the movie. I disliked that amulet thing.
A thousand times, yes! I like the drawings; I think both Mrs. F and J turn out pretty cute. But... oh damn, there's an essay I read YEARS ago about how the book is this communal ideal and the movie is about divine gifts... or something... I wonder if it's still around...
I can't believe I found it. Frisby-Turned-Brisby: the Resolution of Ambiguity in The Secret of NIMH by Paula T. Connolly.
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I had a sixth grade teacher give me a book that had a sex scene in it, but it wasn't as graphic as MoA. I was pretty surprised. But I knew she didn't know the scene was in the book--she gave me it to read because she was reading a bunch of books to try to decide what to assign one of her classes, and she gave me that one 'cause she trusted my opinion. Which made me feel all cool.
I like the drawingsThe drawings are great except, imo, Nicodemus, the owl, and Jenner--especially Nicodemus. He horrified me as a kid and even though I'm no longer scared of him I still find him too kind of, gross looking to like. But of course that builds up his kind of mysticism and "royalty" which omg, that essay does such a good job discussing. Likewise with Jenner; I thought he was made too evil-looking ( ... )
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YES. I should have mentioned that; all the "mystic" or evil characters get shafted. It's so blatant, too, and you'd really think we could stop teaching our children that ugly is scary, etc. Cute little Frisby, and hot stud Justin, are harmless and fun! Also conforming to "helpess female" and "macho hero" stereotypes. Mr. Daroga always gets funny when she fights her way out of the birdcage and loses her cape.
"There's something about creatures in danger saving themselves," he muttered last time we watched it. "I mean, I know she's a mouse, but..."
who's gonna be interested in an essay about rat mysticism vs. rat communities?
*blink*
independence vs. interdependence
Yes. As the essay spells it out, the philosophical distinction between the two versions is clear. I'm usually the first to cry out when I think something's being read into too much; but this is really telling. I wish this sort of thing got more play in the media.
Did you ever read any of the NIMH ( ... )
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"I mean, I know she's a mouse, but..."
Okay that is scary, too.
I wish this sort of thing got more play in the media.
me too.
No, I never read any sequels! I was terrified of them not being as good, and I read the summary for the next one and thought it sounded stupid. This was when I was older, probably 16 or so...I read it in elementary school but kinda forgot about it completely until I picked it back up again much later.
Fanfiction is all very well, but why is it that so much published fic is so much worse than the stuff we write for each other? Is it the commerical aspect (i.e. what sells to the mass public isn't the same as what we as fans require of the text)?I think the commercial aspect is definitely part of it. Part of it is also that we just don't read bad!fic. I wonder if also it has something to do with intent...fanfic, being non-profit, is generally done out of love. Even if the published fic author loved the source material they're ( ... )
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I know. That's why I included "mystic" along with evil.
No, I never read any sequels! I was terrified of them not being as good
I'm pretty sure I read them in late elementary school, when I didn't know no better. And yes, they sucked.
Part of it is also that we just don't read bad!fic
Well, I'd *hope* that decided what gets published would rule out the pro equivalent of bad!fic. But that's foolish and naive of me.
I can imagine myself wanting to publish "fanfic" out of love for the source material. I might not be read that way by everyone, but I'm sure I'd intend well.
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Yes, well...I write fanfic because I need to. I want to know stuff that could happen, or sort out the characters in my mind. I wrote it before I found out other people did it. So I do it for myself, and I post it for shits and giggles. Yeah, I want other people to like it, but no great big if they don't.
Motivations for publishing just seem more extensive. Yeah, I could claim I'm just trying to reach a broader audience, but even with that, it's then *also* about reaching audience, and not just about you and your love affair with the canon. Know what I mean?
Anyway there's some good published fanfic out there that I think shows a serious love for the source material; I just think it's more rare than with online fanfiction that other stuff doesn't get in the way.
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But you still post it. I mean, even if it's "for fun," you're still putting it out there. I don't doubt your motives, but I know that mine are muddled very very much by popular opinion.
For me, posting fanfiction is *already* also about reaching an audience. For better or worse.
Anyway there's some good published fanfic out there that I think shows a serious love for the source material; I just think it's more rare than with online fanfiction that other stuff doesn't get in the way.
I agree with this, though.
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I love Harry Potter. I hope the last book is good. I hope Neville doesn't die.
What were we talking about?
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