not they way I would've gone...
...but interesting.
12:42 PM 6/14/08 · Since the original situation was displayed in the comics there hasn't been a single other medium, film or animated, that has quite gotten Venom right. This can be as much attributed to a distinct lack of time available to an estimated shorter attention span from the audience...
...you can drag stuff out in a longer format through comics or novels that most people won't put up with in a visual medium.
Short form: Spidey originally gets the black costume, not suspecting it anything other than thought senstive fabric, during the Secret Wars. After he and the rest of the superheroes get back to Earth he finds the suit works great for him in so many ways but little hints here and there, like the first time he faced Puma, revealed the suit to be more than it appeared. Even then he didn't suspect the costume was taking control of his body in his sleep to go crime fighting on Its own.
Eventually he takes Reed Richards up on his offer, for a host of things he can't explain on his own, to test the suit out. I stress "evntually" because he literally had the suit for a little over a year, maybe as much as two, before he found out it was alive. Reed separates him from the suit and puts it in containment and that's that for a another few years.
Doctor Doom, more or less, launches the Baxter Building into orbit and in the process the costume busts free. It immediately goes after Spidey and tries to permanently bond with him at the same time he's fighting the Vulturions; Its as much fighting them as It is Spidey. Things go bad for the symbiote when they wind up in a bell tower and Spidey figures it died...
...which is kinda cool because the massive vibrations from the bells were killing Spidey too so in Its apparant last final act, It moved him to safety before apparently dying.
Obviously, it didn't die. Severely weakened it falls into the church and comes into contact with Eddie Brock who was praying at the time. Sharing memories and powers, they become Venom. Brock hated Spidey for a relatively petty reason, ruining a story he'd invested his soul into (Brock worked for a rival newspaper) about the Sin Eater serial killer.
The time between our learning of Venom and the symbiote's apparant death saving Spidey was another few years.
The first time we see this played out again was in the animated Spidey series that was on FOX in the mid to late 90's. It was good on a lot of levels but made Brock seem especially pathetic when he really wasn't. Symbiote was kinda cool too but it was all so extremely rushed.
After that came the 3rd Spidey film, again rushed and an even more pathetic Brock. Which finally brings us to this Saturday and the Spectacular Spidey...
...which was actually surprisingly good!
The corrupting influence of the symbiote is entirely a product of the first animated series. In the comics Spidey did become quicker to anger but that was more from not being able to fully sleep at anytime because even if his head wasn't in it, the symbiote was physically draining him from fighting crime while he was asleep.
Spectacular Spidey borrows as much from the Ultimate version of Spidey as it does from the 3rd film. Brock is still a bit pathetic on his own but only after he's wearing the symbiote. Before that he was a pretty standup guy but quick to anger when Peter didn't measure up in his eyes.
The actual displays of Venom were amazing. Animation on this series is pretty okay...though I still can't figure why they gave Peter a beauty mark. It was a little freaky to see Venom get his mouth webbed up and then grow another out of his gut to keep speaking but otherwise I was impressed. Good use of saying "we" instead of "I" and the fact they pulled that psychological bit out of the bag, Spidey offering to let the symbiote take him, was right out of the comics...
...minus originally that the symbiote had permanently bonded with Brock by then and it was the strain of trying to also bond with Spidey that won the day as it knocked them all out.
12:42 PM 6/14/08 · Since the original situation was displayed in the comics there hasn't been a single other medium, film or animated, that has quite gotten Venom right. This can be as much attributed to a distinct lack of time available to an estimated shorter attention span from the audience...
...you can drag stuff out in a longer format through comics or novels that most people won't put up with in a visual medium.
Short form: Spidey originally gets the black costume, not suspecting it anything other than thought senstive fabric, during the Secret Wars. After he and the rest of the superheroes get back to Earth he finds the suit works great for him in so many ways but little hints here and there, like the first time he faced Puma, revealed the suit to be more than it appeared. Even then he didn't suspect the costume was taking control of his body in his sleep to go crime fighting on Its own.
Eventually he takes Reed Richards up on his offer, for a host of things he can't explain on his own, to test the suit out. I stress "evntually" because he literally had the suit for a little over a year, maybe as much as two, before he found out it was alive. Reed separates him from the suit and puts it in containment and that's that for a another few years.
Doctor Doom, more or less, launches the Baxter Building into orbit and in the process the costume busts free. It immediately goes after Spidey and tries to permanently bond with him at the same time he's fighting the Vulturions; Its as much fighting them as It is Spidey. Things go bad for the symbiote when they wind up in a bell tower and Spidey figures it died...
...which is kinda cool because the massive vibrations from the bells were killing Spidey too so in Its apparant last final act, It moved him to safety before apparently dying.
Obviously, it didn't die. Severely weakened it falls into the church and comes into contact with Eddie Brock who was praying at the time. Sharing memories and powers, they become Venom. Brock hated Spidey for a relatively petty reason, ruining a story he'd invested his soul into (Brock worked for a rival newspaper) about the Sin Eater serial killer.
The time between our learning of Venom and the symbiote's apparant death saving Spidey was another few years.
The first time we see this played out again was in the animated Spidey series that was on FOX in the mid to late 90's. It was good on a lot of levels but made Brock seem especially pathetic when he really wasn't. Symbiote was kinda cool too but it was all so extremely rushed.
After that came the 3rd Spidey film, again rushed and an even more pathetic Brock. Which finally brings us to this Saturday and the Spectacular Spidey...
...which was actually surprisingly good!
The corrupting influence of the symbiote is entirely a product of the first animated series. In the comics Spidey did become quicker to anger but that was more from not being able to fully sleep at anytime because even if his head wasn't in it, the symbiote was physically draining him from fighting crime while he was asleep.
Spectacular Spidey borrows as much from the Ultimate version of Spidey as it does from the 3rd film. Brock is still a bit pathetic on his own but only after he's wearing the symbiote. Before that he was a pretty standup guy but quick to anger when Peter didn't measure up in his eyes.
The actual displays of Venom were amazing. Animation on this series is pretty okay...though I still can't figure why they gave Peter a beauty mark. It was a little freaky to see Venom get his mouth webbed up and then grow another out of his gut to keep speaking but otherwise I was impressed. Good use of saying "we" instead of "I" and the fact they pulled that psychological bit out of the bag, Spidey offering to let the symbiote take him, was right out of the comics...
...minus originally that the symbiote had permanently bonded with Brock by then and it was the strain of trying to also bond with Spidey that won the day as it knocked them all out.