Oct 31, 2005 13:56
My perspective:
(After an ongoing banter where J continually asks "why")
J: Why?
A: Because women are inferior creatures.
J: Why?
A: Because I have a Y cromazone.
J: Why?
(Note, at this point that A does not have any dispute toward women. If J had been saying because men are dumbasses I gaurantee you not as many men would have bristled at the comment as women would have bristled at that comment. But this was all banter. A joke.)
A few feet away a point badly constructed was trying to be made at the exact same time to a couple of women and few men about the increased sensitivity towards women's needs that have been given over the years in certain instances. An if a man was raped vs. a woman was raped scenerio. But the person in question was using the horrid example of women crying vs. men being accused of beating. It pitted the woman as the evil doer instead of the simple neutral basis that, yes, women have been given some regard that men simply aren't. I contrive that it has to do with the nature of woman, that the majority of of men have placed on us, that pits women as overlyempathetic sensitive individuals. But that's an entirely different argument.
The problem was not the argument, in this instant, but the people.
I am not taking sides.
I am not proving anyone right or wrong.
But I am going to tell everyone my biggest pet peeve because this is my place to vent and I'm venting the hell out.
I hate it when someone tells someone to be quiet. To stop talking. You are the only one who ever has control over if you get offended by something. It's not fair to place blame on the other person for your own feelings. If you are offended then state so and don't say anything else. You have no control over that person or their opinions at that moment or if they keep talking. So don't try and get control of someone else. Stay in control or leave. There is no need to threaten. None. No one should be punished for something said even if you don't disagree with it to the bone of your being.
No one was the bad guy. No one was in the wrong. It was opinion. There was a lot of miscommunication. There were a lot of hurt feelings and emotions brought up from the past.
I love you all. I love you all so much. And I, honestly and genuinly, hope I haven't offended anyone who I love.
And to the person who floundered around the women. How can you expect anyone to truly understand what you are and where you're coming from if you cannot verbalize it. Just stop. Say I'm sorry if I offended. Say that you're being misinterpreted. Stop the conversation.
No one was the bad guy. No one was in the wrong. It was opinion. There was a lot of miscommunication. There were a lot of hurt feelings and emotions brought up from the past.
The, annoyed by placing bad guy good guy crap, end.