Crecy, without the cut

Jul 25, 2015 11:00

OK. That didn't work. I'll try it without the cut.

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crecy ; hundred years' war

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Crecy amazon_ahoy July 25 2015, 10:13:58 UTC
I see it now! So the main line was slightly downhill from there, and the bows could probably reach to the crest of the rising brownish field.

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Re: Crecy heliopausa July 25 2015, 14:16:30 UTC
That seems a long way - but I am no judge of distances!
How far could a longbow arrow fly, still retaining enough power to hurt someone badly?
Could an arrow take down a horse?

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Re: Crecy amazon_ahoy July 25 2015, 14:30:37 UTC
Oh, now you're asking ( ... )

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Re: Crecy heliopausa July 25 2015, 15:04:44 UTC
Thank you! I can see how (given a large enough body of archers) they'd be enormously useful for a force trying to hold a position against an oncoming force (unless the oncoming force were infantry with a Roman tortoise-shield defence).
Do you think they'd have enough accuracy to still be useful when battle was joined? (I do know who won at Crecy, and that the longbows get a lot of the credit! I'm just trying to visualise why.)

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Re: Crecy amazon_ahoy July 25 2015, 16:07:44 UTC
The standard for being allowed into a medieval archery company, apparently, was being able to hit an oyster shell at a hundred paces (call it 63 yards). If you could do that, you'd stand a good chance of being able to hit the joints of plate armour at the same range - or the visor of the helmet, of course, and arrows could usually break through even a good visor.

As for the tortoise, that only really worked with the scutum, which of course was rectangular. A typical medieval shield was too small and the wrong shape; there would be gaps between shields that the archers would simply shoot into. In any case a shield would probably start to break up after half a dozen hits.

At both Crecy and Agincourt the archers fought hand to hand as well as with their bows. They were more agile than men in armour and tended to carry sledgehammers, axes and daggers. It all got rather nasty.

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Re: Crecy heliopausa July 26 2015, 10:53:23 UTC
:) Yes, I knew the tortoise wasn't used in these battles! I was just musing on things that could have been.
and will now be able to muse with good solid background data - thank you very much!

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