Nah, NOlan could have had ANYTHING he wanted after TDK made like a gazillion dollars. I think he just wanted a Robin his way and making him a fledgling detective probably appealed to his sensibilities as a realism thing.
Well Chloe in comics still has a day job at a paper, right? Or did they nix that for the comics? I wasn't sure cause I've not read them and only occasionally checked Summer's scans. But I really hate to have hope but things like putting her back in purple, having her AU self be a brunette, the way she get to say Superman a lot, and her having an active plot + miller's show track record...I can't help but hope damn it.
I know DC has icon hard ons. I know that it'd be an uphill climb and miller can't control everything. However, I do wonder if the fact Nolan's batman franchise that made about a bazillion dollars and critics mostly love did a robin fake out and people seem to be okay with it not being so rigidly comics might free DC up into thoughts about Chlois, dunno. It couldn't hurt!
Also, I do like Chlark working together and always have of course. I think s9 was just created to sloppily kill Chlark to make Clois look better and then to character assassinate chloe with all that creepy Big Sister/Lana-Like shit. If Miller writes them well with her as his main communication source (I've seen scans where they're now comm linked when he's out flying on patrol), then I can jive with that.
We'll have to see and I can't believe I'm saying that again! LOL, like I said hope springs eternal!
Yeah, as far as we know she still has that job in Star City -- and it's been a sticking point contention for some commenters: "Why are they still in Metropolis? Shouldn't she be starting her new job in Star City? Not that we want Chlollie to leave... (except for how we totally do)."
(I agree with April that if they wanted give her a new job in journalism than tying her down to a specific paper in a specific city was a mistake, for exactly this reason. You either plop her down in Star City and limit her field of action or you ignore the fact that she has a day job in order to allow her participate in plottiness elsewhere. BQM seems to be going with Option 2, but, again as Apey's mentioned, setting her up as a freelancer would be a better solution (but it wouldn't have provided the shipper bone the producers wanted to toss).)
A Robin fake-out worked because the vast majority of people going to that movie don't give at $@#! about comics canon. BQM on the other hand knows his audience is composed mostly of people who can be arsed to seek out and buy comics (getting harder and harder in my area at least; the only dealer on a bus line went out of business a few years ago) as opposed to hitting the multi-plex on a Friday night, so he'd really have his work cut out for him. On the other hand, he really seems to like the weird and wacky (he loves him some body/reality swapping, Zatanna, temporary powers - not to mention throwing women who aren't Lois at Clark) so I can see the idea of throwing Chlois into the mix in some way as appealing to him.
What I wouldn't want, of course, is another situation in which we get Chlois (but not really) from him, OR (and especially) a situation in which Chloe becomes reduced to a foot-note in the Wikipedia entry of Lois Lane as a temporary AU version of her -- which is what I would fear would happen if the fankids squeal too loudly.
Well yeah they are kind of stuck a bit there. As long as she's reporting I like that it's not gone but I just want it on record she's a reporter and if Lois is just LI right now and not even having a reporter arc (when did she ever), I'm not mad about that.
I guess as far as SV comics goes but it can set a precedent there for DC that people can roll with it and that it's not too radical that people can't understand. I hope that Miller has enough control to do it because I really think he wants to and what he wrote in Masquerade was so painfully accurate about Chloe, who she really is, and what she wants that I just think he gets it...if only DC will let him do it is more my question.
I think they're done body swaps or magical things like Chloe-looking-like-Nois or trapped in her body or something. I think that it'd be an important step in Chlois even if it got legitimized first in an AU title. I dunno, I've been thinking more about it since summer's post and even if it's very late and not many people read comics compared to who watched SV at the end, let alone in its heyday, it would do A LOT to make me feel better.
I haven't been following Lois much but from what I've seen her reporting has consisted of a press conference and more stated attributes along the lines of "she's the best reporter in Metropolis!" That may change but I think BQM has also made a comment that scenes of people typing don't really move a comic story along, which makes me doubt he'll spend many pages showing us the reporting of any of the characters for whose job it ostensibly is.
Had a talk about TDKR with a Marvel fanboy I work with and we were talking about how DC tends to have more of a multiplicity of characters for various superhero names than DC does: there've been different Robin's, different Flashes, different Batgirls, of course many different Green Lanterns. Supergirl's had probably a half-dozen different monikers associated with her power-set / relationship to Superman, at least one of which had a considerably different origin story from the original SG. So it's not as if there's no precedent in the comics themselves for messing with the "who" of various stories.
And in that sense, if they did introduce it, doing in a comic vs. on the show may lend more legitimacy to the idea. It's like there's a wall in some minds separating "mythos" from "non-mythos" and mythos stories only exist on paper.
Well Chloe in comics still has a day job at a paper, right? Or did they nix that for the comics? I wasn't sure cause I've not read them and only occasionally checked Summer's scans. But I really hate to have hope but things like putting her back in purple, having her AU self be a brunette, the way she get to say Superman a lot, and her having an active plot + miller's show track record...I can't help but hope damn it.
I know DC has icon hard ons. I know that it'd be an uphill climb and miller can't control everything. However, I do wonder if the fact Nolan's batman franchise that made about a bazillion dollars and critics mostly love did a robin fake out and people seem to be okay with it not being so rigidly comics might free DC up into thoughts about Chlois, dunno. It couldn't hurt!
Also, I do like Chlark working together and always have of course. I think s9 was just created to sloppily kill Chlark to make Clois look better and then to character assassinate chloe with all that creepy Big Sister/Lana-Like shit. If Miller writes them well with her as his main communication source (I've seen scans where they're now comm linked when he's out flying on patrol), then I can jive with that.
We'll have to see and I can't believe I'm saying that again! LOL, like I said hope springs eternal!
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(I agree with April that if they wanted give her a new job in journalism than tying her down to a specific paper in a specific city was a mistake, for exactly this reason. You either plop her down in Star City and limit her field of action or you ignore the fact that she has a day job in order to allow her participate in plottiness elsewhere. BQM seems to be going with Option 2, but, again as Apey's mentioned, setting her up as a freelancer would be a better solution (but it wouldn't have provided the shipper bone the producers wanted to toss).)
A Robin fake-out worked because the vast majority of people going to that movie don't give at $@#! about comics canon. BQM on the other hand knows his audience is composed mostly of people who can be arsed to seek out and buy comics (getting harder and harder in my area at least; the only dealer on a bus line went out of business a few years ago) as opposed to hitting the multi-plex on a Friday night, so he'd really have his work cut out for him. On the other hand, he really seems to like the weird and wacky (he loves him some body/reality swapping, Zatanna, temporary powers - not to mention throwing women who aren't Lois at Clark) so I can see the idea of throwing Chlois into the mix in some way as appealing to him.
What I wouldn't want, of course, is another situation in which we get Chlois (but not really) from him, OR (and especially) a situation in which Chloe becomes reduced to a foot-note in the Wikipedia entry of Lois Lane as a temporary AU version of her -- which is what I would fear would happen if the fankids squeal too loudly.
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I guess as far as SV comics goes but it can set a precedent there for DC that people can roll with it and that it's not too radical that people can't understand. I hope that Miller has enough control to do it because I really think he wants to and what he wrote in Masquerade was so painfully accurate about Chloe, who she really is, and what she wants that I just think he gets it...if only DC will let him do it is more my question.
I think they're done body swaps or magical things like Chloe-looking-like-Nois or trapped in her body or something. I think that it'd be an important step in Chlois even if it got legitimized first in an AU title. I dunno, I've been thinking more about it since summer's post and even if it's very late and not many people read comics compared to who watched SV at the end, let alone in its heyday, it would do A LOT to make me feel better.
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Had a talk about TDKR with a Marvel fanboy I work with and we were talking about how DC tends to have more of a multiplicity of characters for various superhero names than DC does: there've been different Robin's, different Flashes, different Batgirls, of course many different Green Lanterns. Supergirl's had probably a half-dozen different monikers associated with her power-set / relationship to Superman, at least one of which had a considerably different origin story from the original SG. So it's not as if there's no precedent in the comics themselves for messing with the "who" of various stories.
And in that sense, if they did introduce it, doing in a comic vs. on the show may lend more legitimacy to the idea. It's like there's a wall in some minds separating "mythos" from "non-mythos" and mythos stories only exist on paper.
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