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Warning: Mixing Gregory's Chronicle and Doctor Who can be hazardous to your brain

Apr 29, 2007 01:02

After reading two articles referencing aforementioned chronicle and finishing the first series of Doctor Who, my new mental image of Edward IV is Captain Jack ( Read more... )

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angevin2 April 29 2007, 01:50:29 UTC

The articles used segments of the chronicle to posit that Edward IV may have been bisexual. I'd accept it as a possibility, though not based on those particular segments, which may well have been using 'love' in a nonsexual way. Who knows? Subtext, how I love thee.

Dude, Edward and Hastings were totally having it off. Thomas More said so. Well, okay, he probably didn't, but there is a bit in his Richard III that really, really sounds like it's making that suggestion. Which I'd quote for you if I were energetic enough to dig out my copy of it, but you may well know the part I'm talking about.

(Also, Edward/Jane Shore/Hastings OT3, Y/N? ;) )

It also occurred to me that one cannot have Richard without Edward. Not really.

I made a similar point when I wrote about More's Richard -- I talked about the way in which that text focuses on royal bodies and how Edward has this expansive physical presence as well as being a sort of abstractly Good King...

lareinenoire April 29 2007, 10:35:59 UTC

Oh, completely. They were totally sharing Jane. And I'm sure she was enjoying every minute of it. Though More blames that for why Elizabeth Woodville hated Hastings -- they wouldn't let her in on the party. ;)

Yorkist orgy, anyone?

And yes, I know precisely which bit you're talking about. Familiar with the king in wanton company, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, et al. Interestingly none of the articles picked up on that -- it was the Edward/Somerset ship they were trying to sink.

That is interesting -- Edward does keep turning up in flashback, doesn't he? There was that whole section when Richard was accusing him of bigamy that was more or less dropped into the storyline to show Edward being snarky to his mother.

angevin2 May 29 2007, 00:09:28 UTC

Revisiting this post because I've been reading about Edward in The Civil Wars --

Though More blames that for why Elizabeth Woodville hated Hastings -- they wouldn't let her in on the party. ;)

You know, in Heywood's Edward IV, there's a scene where Elizabeth confronts Jane and is totally about to tear her a new one, and then basically goes, "oh, never mind, I can see why Edward's banging you, because you're totally hot."

And then Edward comes in.

It is, I think, pretty clear where the scene is headed. YORKIST ORGY TIME!

transemacabre March 14 2008, 07:32:55 UTC

Ah, someone should totally write the epic Edward IV novel in which everyone is shagging everyone else. Yea, verily!

Also, how come you don't post this stuff to plantagenesta? We need more than my crazed ramblings!

lareinenoire March 17 2008, 10:05:40 UTC

Ah, someone should totally write the epic Edward IV novel in which everyone is shagging everyone else. Yea, verily!

Well, rosamund and I have a piece of Doctor Who fic in the works where Edward turns up and is shagging many people, if that's any help. ;)

::grin:: I just finished seeing the entire histories cycle in Stratford, so I will probably be bombarding people with my incoherent ramblings on that subject. And they are full of Plantagenets.

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