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magisterequitum November 4 2012, 02:44:16 UTC
UGH YES.

Like I'm more passionate about the thoughts I have on my own? That the show doesn't give me? Because I make it better. Like my thoughts of Elena and Bonnie will always be better in my head, because I do it better than the show does. And my talks with you and some other people are passionate and I love. But the show? ehhhhhh, no not really. It's like a give or take, or else I'm resigned myself that this is just how it's going to be. SO SAD IN ITSELF. And yet I continue to crank out fic at an alarming rate.

BALVADINO COME BACKKKK.

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upupa_epops November 4 2012, 02:52:12 UTC
Like I'm more passionate about the thoughts I have on my own?

THIS! The whole hiatus I was avoiding most of meta discussions in fandom, because I was all "TROLOLOLOLOL, who cares?". I got full into fic-writing mode, and most of my brain is still there. Basically, I watch this show for plotbunnies...

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magisterequitum November 4 2012, 02:53:46 UTC
It's just so sad, but honestly, anything I can come up with by myself or with you/others GOLD.

I enjoy having my own thoughts because I know they'd be complete for me, but for the show giving me something in return? seldom what i want or to the extent.

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upupa_epops November 4 2012, 02:56:27 UTC
Yes! The stories are so much better in my head, I love them so much! Getting a brilliant show would be a nice bonus, but... it's not really necessary?

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magisterequitum November 4 2012, 02:57:23 UTC
ANYTHING YOU CAN DO I CAN DO BETTER

things i say to the screen every week, let's be real

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upupa_epops November 4 2012, 03:00:48 UTC
My watching of TVD consists of 2 kinds of moments:

- "ANYTHING YOU CAN DO I CAN DO BETTER" moments;
- "THIS LOOKS LIKE THE WRITERS SPENT HALF OF THE HIATUS STALKING MY FLIST" moments.

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ladygawain November 4 2012, 03:00:35 UTC
Amen to this a thousand times.

I have your fic open in another tab and am trying to find the words to comment adequately.

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upupa_epops November 4 2012, 03:12:49 UTC
I anticipate your thoughts :D. I might sound like a total dick right now, but I was kind of writing this story having you constantly on my mind, so I was really hoping you'd read it and tell me what you thought.

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ladygawain November 4 2012, 03:25:00 UTC
You are never a dick (that's also like the most flattering thing ever, I think I might be a dick for thinking so HEEE).

I've left rambling comment no. 1. And need to compose myself to write no. 2.

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upupa_epops November 4 2012, 03:32:15 UTC
I read your comment, and I have stars in my eyes *__*. I AM SO HAPPY!

My research to that story mostly consisted of reading your Bonnie posts. So, yeah, I was writing with my "What Would Maggie Do?" glasses on.

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ladygawain November 4 2012, 03:43:36 UTC
You completely deserve more than anything I can say - you worked so hard on that fic and it more than shows. I'm so happy that you wrote it!

Ah, stop you <3

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upupa_epops November 4 2012, 03:45:18 UTC
<3333333333

Now I want to write sequels, because I'm having feelings :(.

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ladygawain November 4 2012, 02:58:34 UTC
Very much this.

I think the fixer in me refuses to stop alchemizing the dross this show gives us. And I love that there are so many people on my f-list who are really masterful at this - INCLUDING YOU. I think there's a part of me that finds greater pleasure in doing this, in FIXING things, in sculpting my own reading of the show despite how little it often gives (for the things I care about) whether through fic, or (formerly) tag spirals, or crazed spurts of meta or whatever it is - as opposed to what I used to do before which while rewarding in many ways was also really negative and draining in others. And I ended up irritating myself in the end.

And real talk: your fic? 1000 times better, more nuanced, more everything than this show. I think, and I've thought this for a while, TVD did this wonderful thing (particularly in season 1) of creating genuinely interesting, diverse characters. Such that no matter how much they neglect Bonnie, I mostly always feel like I have a firm grasp on who she is as a character and how she might ( ... )

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magisterequitum November 4 2012, 03:05:03 UTC
Same! I find a lot more fun and pleasure in thinking AFTER and fixing things n my head and delving into what all could have been fleshed out so much more. It's better to keep my expectations low and then just fix it for myself ( ... )

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upupa_epops November 4 2012, 03:08:13 UTC
Butting in, because I've been rewatching s1 lately. And I'm amazed by how everyone gets to have scenes with everyone! Elena gets to have relationships with Jeremy, Jenna, Bonnie, Caroline! Elena can reject Stefan! Caroline and Bonnie can talk about their friendship! Jeremy has grief and an addiction! WHOA!

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magisterequitum November 4 2012, 03:26:27 UTC
YES. They all had arcs and nuances to them that were deeply layered. SO WONDERFUL.

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