The Porntastic Adventures of Ninja and Lady
Sometimes ninjaboots and I have little chats online. (By "little" I mostly mean "lasting several hours and almost uniformly taking place in the middle of the night".) And often (read: I think always, so far) our conversation turns to . . . well, to porn of the K/S variety. DON'T JUDGE US. Well, last night she mentioned that she thought maybe we should post the transcripts, on account of how these chats end up being little pseudo-ficlets anyway.
So, if you can slog your way through the non-linear nature of our madness, ENJOY!
ninjaboots says: "There is no plot and no point to these pieces of pornish prurience, merely dirty sweaty man-filth! you may note that events are sketched in only broadest terms until Mr. Spock and Mr. Kirk begin to engage in coitus, at which point the level of detail and vocabulary jumps roughly three hundred percent. please pretend you didn't notice."
[00:16] Ninja: and this one says 'arranged marriages between the children of vulcan clans and highly-gifted human children to facilitate political bonds'
[00:17] Lady: DAMN YOU THIS IS YOUR FAULT
[00:18] Ninja: they were your bunnies to start with, it's all on you!
[00:18] Lady: THAT IS NOT TRUE
[00:18] Ninja: i saw the wand, i am a credible witness
[00:18] Lady: IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT THAT I AM NOW IMAGINING A K/S AMOK-TIME REMIX
[00:18] Ninja: in which jim is t'pring?
[00:18] Lady: YES
[00:18] Ninja: THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
[00:19] Ninja: imagine bb!spock meeting bb!jim to be BONDED! aww!
[00:19] Lady: they haven't seen each other since they were seven, and jim doesn't want to be engaged to some vulcan kid, much less marry him
[00:19] Ninja: jim would be in little vulcan robes for the occasion!
[00:19] Ninja: and he'd be all fidgety!
[00:20] Lady: spock is UPTIGHT and BORING and jim will be damned if he'll be his warm body during pon farr
[00:20] Ninja: his memory of spock is of a small, silent, slight kid
[00:20] Ninja: not interesting.
[00:21] Lady: so he's all, "i'ma challenge him at the ceremony, because that's the only time i can legally do so, and then we'll go our separate ways."
[00:21] Ninja: haha. right, jim.
[00:21] Lady: because no one's told him that a) the challenge is to the death, and that b) even if it weren't, spock would die anyway if he didn't consummate his pon farr
[00:21] Ninja: can spock pin him on the ground during the challenge and--not kill him?
[00:22] Lady: i don't think jim would willingly let even a complete stranger die because of him
[00:22] Ninja: exhibit a: nero
[00:22] Ninja: so basically, jim's choices are to kill, be killed, or get fucked
[00:23] Lady: jim would be dating gary mitchell
[00:24] Ninja: hmph.
[00:24] Ninja: is gary an asshole?
[00:24] Lady: (not super-evil!gary, just a-little-bit-of-a-douche-but-still-jim's-friend!gary)
[00:24] Ninja: are they dating or screwing?
[00:24] Lady: dating
[00:25] Ninja: k
[00:25] Lady: and they have this plan where jim will challenge spock when it's time, and gary will fight him--since spock will be all weakened from the plak tow, and he'll stand a decent chance--and then jim will be free and spock can go fuck someone else
[00:26] Ninja: uh. right.
[00:26] Lady: see, this is what comes of vulcan reticence. a failure to communicate is nobody's friend.
[00:26] Ninja: you, uh, might wanna do a bit more research, boys. i mean, i'd assume that as a vulcan's bondmate jim would get SOME access
[00:27] Lady: i'm thinking probably still not, actually
[00:27] Lady: i mean, he probably got instructed on what the bond will be like, and what it will mean, and what will be expected of him when spock gets all biologically hot and bothered
[00:27] Ninja: and that's about it, yeah
[00:27] Ninja: so how does this plan turn out?
[00:28] Lady: but no one actually ever expects anyone to challenge. a challenge hasn't happened in the past thousand years or so.
[00:28] Ninja: it is illogical.
[00:28] Lady: and it's shameful to talk about, so why even bother? it's a nonissue
[00:29] Ninja: silly vulcans
[00:29] Lady: several months before spock's pon farr is due to start, though (because in this 'verse they can predict these things with great accuracy) his parents convince him to go to earth to see his bondmate and "get to know each other" (his mother's words)
[00:29] Lady: jim is surprised to find that spock grew up GOOD
[00:29] Ninja: spock is freaking hot
[00:29] Lady: spock is surprised to find that jim grew up remarkably, almost intimidatingly intelligent
[00:30] Ninja: and by 'intimidatingly', spock rather means 'damn, i want to meld that shit'
[00:30] Lady: yes -_-
[00:30] Ninja: and. . . gary is a douche?
[00:30] Lady: gary doesn't like the idea of the two of them spending time together
[00:31] Ninja: well, in his defence, he's well aware that he's jim's boyfriend and spock is his sort of fiance
[00:31] Lady: i imagine spock has planned out a series of several "dates" in which they will learn of each other's interests and activities
[00:31] Lady: it's possible this would be a formal list of some kind
[00:31] Ninja: heeee!
[00:32] Ninja: do you think he got amanda's stamp of approval?
[00:32] Ninja: or rather, do you think she vetoed one or two things?
[00:33] Lady: i'm torn between "yes, though it was less a 'stamp of approval' and more her barely glancing at it because she was trying so hard not to giggle" and "no, because he wasn't going to talk about dating his bondmate with his MOTHER, that was . . . well, if vulcans got embarrassed it would be over something like that"
[00:34] Ninja: adorable!
[00:34] Lady: and jim's reassuring gary that it's just a formality, he doesn't -want- to be bonded to spock, everything's still cool
[00:34] Lady: there is possibly desperate, rough reassurance sex involved
[00:35] Ninja: okay, question: are gary and jim in love, or in like and in lust?
[00:36] Lady: (HEEEEEEEEEEE and i just imagined the human bondmates being selected in part because according to brain scans they show signs of developing into natural sexual bottoms XD)
[00:36] Lady: the second, definitely
[00:36] Lady: they don't have plans to be together forever or anything
[00:36] Lady: but it's a step or two up from casual
[00:36] Ninja: because as rabidly possessive of my otp as i am, i don't really like the breaking up people in love thing
[00:36] Ninja: okay, cool
[00:37] Ninja: (well, there have to be SOME vulcan bottoms or that population would be in trouble, hee)
[00:38] Lady: (i always imagined that the females go through strict training in order to learn how to be properly submissive during pon farr, in order to minimize injury to both parties)
[00:39] Ninja: (i always sort of figured that as far as vulcans were concerned, possession was everything. they are possessive naturally. who is on top or bottom is, in a lot of cases, irrelevant as long as it is made clear that they belong to each other. this naturally develops into polarized sexual preferences in most bonded pairs.)
[00:40] Lady: so spock and jim go out on these dates, and jim probably drags spock off to do something actually -fun- halfway through most of them. and they -do- get to know each other, and to their surprise they actually . . . well, they don't always get along in the strictest sense, but even their disagreements are remarkably . . . um, stimulating.
[00:41] Ninja: maybe it's the bond, maybe it's something else, but.
[00:41] Lady: at one point i think jim would have tickets to some sciency thing, and gary would either have no interest in the topic or be pissed at jim for something, so he asks spock instead
[00:41] Ninja: is jim finding that for the first time in his life he can really -feel- the bond? can he feel the bond?
[00:42] Lady: spock is surprisingly gratified by jim's invitation
[00:42] Lady: i sort of figured that, much as i imagine happened with t'pring, spock sort of blocked off/ignored the bond for most of his life
[00:42] Ninja: awww!
[00:42] Lady: so there wasn't really anything to feel
[00:42] Ninja: fair enough
[00:42] Lady: but possibly he's rethinking that now
[00:43] Ninja: eeeee
[00:43] Lady: it's possible, he thinks, that this bond is not the trap he first felt it to be
[00:43] Ninja: spock or jim?
[00:43] Lady: spock
[00:43] Ninja: figured, the language there sounded more like spock
[00:44] Lady: meanwhile, he's always talking to jim about when they are bonded. he makes it clear that he doesn't expect jim to derail or defer his plans in order to accommodate spock.
[00:44] Ninja: has jim told him about his plan to challenge the bond?
[00:45] Lady: (he'd always imagined that his pon farr would hit, they'd complete the bond, and then just live their separate lives for the next seven years)
[00:45] Lady: (now he finds he's willing to consider the possibility of them actually having a life together, and ready to make compromises to that effect)
[00:45] Ninja: how. . . cold. why on earth would a human agree to that?
[00:45] Ninja: i mean, honestly spock. you know what you're getting out of it, but why would a human want that?
[00:46] Lady: actually, if he'd said that to jim at the beginning he'd probably have been fine with it
[00:46] Ninja: lol
[00:46] Ninja: true
[00:46] Lady: mostly because he hadn't known quite what the bond was, in a practical, firsthand experience sort of way
[00:47] Ninja: interesting point
[00:47] Lady: but no, he hasn't told spock about his plan. and now he's starting to feel guilty, because spock actually seems like a pretty nice guy, and he seems willing to make a lot of allowances for the life jim wants to lead
[00:48] Lady: and there's a part of him that's thinking this bond might not be -so- bad after all
[00:49] Lady: but he's been rebelling against the idea for most of his life; it's practically a part of him now, his very resistance to the idea. and there's gary to consider, and . . . he just can't do it. he has to challenge. spock will find someone else. and it's not like they're soulmates or anything; they barely know each other.
[00:50] Ninja: oh, jim.
[00:50] Ninja: i seem to say that a lot, but. JIM.
[00:50] Lady: so finally the day comes
[00:51] Ninja: god, poor spock
[00:51] Lady: with the bond reopened he can -feel- spock burning; it probably wakes him up when it begins
[00:51] Ninja: i'm almost hoping he's too far gone to feel betrayed
[00:52] Ninja: because jim doesn't understand just what kind of betrayal is going on here
[00:52] Lady: he doesn't
[00:52] Ninja: but, oh god, poor spock
[00:52] Lady: they're at the appointed place (the vulcan embassy, probably, has an arena set up)
[00:53] Lady: and jim is all nervous and he kind of feels like he's gonna throw up
[00:53] Lady: gary's there, and he keeps giving him encouraging looks
[00:53] Ninja: man, I'M all nervous right now on everyone's behalf
[00:53] Lady: and jim can -feel spock burning-
[00:54] Ninja: jim, you moron, -spock will kill gary-
[00:54] Lady: jim can barely get the words out to challenge
[00:54] Ninja: i know he's not a moron, he doesn't know, but oh. my. god.
[00:54] Ninja: nooooo
[00:55] Lady: but he does
[00:55] Lady: trying to apologize to spock with his eyes
[00:55] Lady: and trying to convey why he's doing it across their bond
[00:55] Ninja: you have no idea how upset and nervous i am right now
[00:55] Lady: but spock isn't responding, and he feels like FIRE in jim's mind now
[00:56] Ninja: jim, spock can't feel anything right now but 'MINE'
[00:56] Lady: (god, why is possessiveness SO HOT?)
[00:56] Ninja: (aside from the obligatory pon farr burning joke here?)
[00:56] Lady: (yes please)
[00:57] Lady: he and gary square off, and gary's had months of training for this, and it's his planet with his environmental conditions, and he's not weakened by the strain of the plak tow
[00:57] Ninja: (hee! because the thought of spock taking what belongs to him and proving to jim who owns his pleasure is possibly the hottest thing ever in the history of the erotic)
[00:58] Lady: (OH MY GOD THE PHRASE "OWNS HIS PLEASURE" IS NOW ENGRAVED ON MY MIND FOREVER)
[00:58] Lady: but, when it comes right down to it, spock is a vulcan
[00:59] Lady: even weakened he's still stronger
[00:59] Ninja: (THAT IS WHAT SPOCK DOES TO JIM WITH THE MIND MELD, YES. ENGRAVING THESE FACTS ON HIS MIND)
[00:59] Ninja: oh man oh man
[00:59] Lady: and it's not until sometime towards the end that someone mentions that btw, this is to the death
[00:59] Ninja: what's jim thinking right now, seeing how utterly lost in savagery spock is
[00:59] Lady: well, once he hears that, he panicks
[01:00] Lady: because he cares about both of them
[01:00] Lady: and he didn't know one of them was going to DIE
[01:01] Lady: before anyone can stop him he's running out onto the field, shouting at both of them to stop, this isn't worth it, he takes it back
[01:01] Ninja: oh shit
[01:02] Lady: he revokes the challenge, he'll have spock, just stop, stop PLEASE
[01:02] Ninja: cue every vulcan there holding her breath to hope that spock sees his mate and snaps into conquest mode instead of staying in warrior mode
[01:02] Lady: which he does
[01:03] Lady: as soon as jim's in range spock just shoves gary aside and grabs jim
[01:03] Ninja: (also i am imagining spock carrying kirk off the field over his shoulder, oh gawd. i know he probably doesn't have even that much control left but it is a HOT IMAGE)
[01:03] Lady: he really doesn't have -nearly- that much control
[01:03] Lady: jim is pinned to the ground and covered in spock before gary even stops falling
[01:04] Ninja: yeah, i figured there would be jim-smexing right then and there
[01:04] Lady: and jim's sort of freaked out, because NO ONE ADEQUATELY EXPLAINED THE DETAILS OF PON FARR
[01:04] Ninja: hoshit
[01:05] Ninja: he was just like 'so then we done sex, right?'
[01:05] Ninja: and they were all like '. . .right. i'mma leave now.'
[01:05] Lady: and he never imagined that spock could be like this, so out of control and violent
[01:05] Lady: and now all the vulcans are discreetly clearing out, yeah
[01:06] Ninja: possibly corralling gary out as well
[01:06] Lady: definitely
[01:06] Lady: though he's beaten up enough at this point that it doesn't take much effort
[01:06] Ninja: no doubt
[01:07] Lady: and spock is tearing at the robes jim's donned for the occasion and jim is desperately trying to remind himself to submit, which is pretty much the only advice he's been given but it's been drilled into his head over and over again
[01:08] Ninja: poor, freaked jim
[01:09] Lady: and spock keeps growling things in vulcan, and jim doesn't understand them but spock must also be doing something to the bond because now jim's not just feeling spock burn. he's burning right along with him.
[01:09] Ninja: (quite frankly, AS AM I)
[01:10] Lady: they're wrestling there in the dirt of the arena, tearing at each other's clothes
[01:10] Ninja: *whimper*
[01:10] Lady: desperate to get to skin
[01:12] Lady: jim has forgotten at this point that he neglected his "ritual preparations" because he didn't think he'd be going through with this
[01:12] Ninja: oops
[01:12] Lady: and doesn't remember until spock pushes inside him and it HURTS
[01:12] Ninja: WE CAN HAS RIMMING
[01:12] Ninja: i mean, uh, that isn't a kink of mine at all
[01:12] Lady: lol
[01:13] Lady: but spock's way too far gone now to stop
[01:13] Ninja: absolutely
[01:13] Lady: though it only takes a few--very painful--thrusts before he comes
[01:13] Lady: and, well, that helps a bit
[01:14] Ninja: i imagine it would
[01:14] Ninja: at this point jim is just gasping through it?
[01:14] Lady: in a variety of ways, because some tiny piece of awareness seems to trickle back at that point
[01:15] Lady: yes. it hurts, and he's not really enjoying it, but he's still burning and he can't stop moving his hips
[01:15] Ninja: ooh
[01:15] Ninja: is he soft?
[01:15] Ninja: i kinda want him to be, so he has to get going again
[01:16] Lady: he is :lol:
[01:16] Ninja: i know, i know
[01:16] Lady: spock seems to be picking up on jim's pain now, or maybe this is just the next step, jim doesn't know, but he brings his hand up and melds them and SHIT, they haven't done this since they were seven and getting betrothed and it is NOT THE SAME
[01:17] Ninja: heeeeee!
[01:17] Lady: spock's mind wasn't this hot then, it didn't sweep through jim like fire, didn't seem to fuse their thoughts together until he couldn't tell that they were still two people
[01:18] Lady: there's anger, and betrayal, and vicious, possessive satisfaction because his mate is HERE, he is HIS, he is claimed and none other will ever have him
[01:19] Ninja: oh god
[01:20] Lady: and alongside that there's sorrow and regret, and the desperate hope for understanding
[01:20] Ninja: but only the barest echo, i imagine, still mostly overshadowed by the crackling and snapping conflagration that is a vulcan roused
[01:21] Lady: jim can't tell which feelings are his and which are spock's anymore. they're -all- his, all theirs, and running between them there's this thin, frayed thread of something like affection and admiration that seems to be doubled, the same thing in both their minds even before the meld
[01:22] Lady: he clings to that like a lifeline, pulling it to the forefront and wrapping it around himself as best he can
[01:23] Ninja: intense!
[01:25] Lady: whatever it is, it wants spock as well. jim can feel it reaching out for him, trying to pull him in too. and he helps it, finding all the scattered pieces of his bondmate and pulling them into himself, binding them with this thread.
[01:25] Ninja: jim, my lad, you really have no idea what you're doing, do you?
[01:25] Lady: and the next time he feels spock's mind say "MINE" he answers, "YOURS"
[01:26] Ninja: because oh, he is.
[01:26] Ninja: oh.
[01:27] Lady: and this thread isn't as thin and frayed as he thought it was. because the rage and hurt are fading, and as they go they uncover more and more of this warmth, this trust and need and certainty
[01:29] Lady: until jim starts to recognize it, because it feels like what he's been feeling more and more in spock's company as they've gotten to know each other
[01:29] Ninja: *flailflail*
[01:30] Lady: and he wants it, he doesn't want to give it up, he WON'T give it up, and he's confused but that's not him because he knows what this is, it's love and he wonders when, exactly, this happened
[01:30] Ninja: oh sweetie
[01:32] Lady: he's vaguely aware that his physical body is clinging to spock's, pulling him closer and moving just as desperately as the vulcan on top of him
[01:32] Ninja: echoed in the mental plane?
[01:32] Lady: yes
[01:33] Lady: he feels spock's mind, somehow part of his and still separate enough to dig in with greedy mental fingers
[01:33] Lady: and jim's mind is clinging right back
[01:33] Ninja: (you are aware that i am incapable of seeing jim's mind as anything but a baby monkey now?)
[01:34] Lady: (hee! my purpose in life is complete! \o/)
[01:35] Lady: until finally spock is coming again, and jim must have gotten hard at some point because he's coming right along with him
[01:36] Ninja: moment of lucidity?
[01:36] Ninja: ish?
[01:36] Lady: spock's mind pulls back, sliding out of jim's, but somehow they're still connected. there's spock's mind, and jim's mind, and somewhere in the middle where they're still mingled together like a venn diagram and okay he KNOWS that wasn't his thought
[01:36] Ninja: heeee that is an awesome spock-thought!
[01:37] Lady: and they both manage to come back to themselves long enough to realize that, um, they're naked in the dirt, and maybe they should see if there are any clothes and, like, a bed or something
[01:38] Lady: also some water, because they're verging on dehydration now
[01:38] Lady: spock isn't willing to let jim get more than an arm's length away
[01:38] Ninja: dirty sweaty naked manflesh
[01:39] Ninja: yeah, the edge has been taken off but pon farr lasts signficantly longer than half an hour
[01:39] Lady: he keeps pulling him back to nuzzle at bits of bare skin and take jim's mouth with his
[01:39] Lady: it's . . . distracting
[01:39] Ninja: um. oh.
[01:39] Ninja: yes it is.
[01:40] Ninja: is spock still communicating solely in vulcan?
[01:40] Lady: they finally find that bed (possibly there are signs leading the way, and a pointed lack of other people)
[01:40] Ninja: signs! hee!
[01:40] Ninja: with arrows!
[01:41] Lady: tough to say, as he's not really -saying- much of anything
[01:41] Ninja: LUBE THIS WAY
[01:41] Ninja: ah, now he's pre-verba;
[01:41] Ninja: *pre-verbal
[01:41] Lady: though when they're finally lying down and he's seen to jim as best he can in his current state, he does seem to remember standard
[01:42] Ninja: ooh!
[01:43] Lady: if only enough to convey that they will need to have a discussion after his time has passed, but he wishes to make it PERFECTLY CLEAR right now that jim is HIS, he will no longer tolerate competition of any kind, and had he been aware of the need earlier he would have fought gary for him before his pon farr even began
[01:43] Ninja: hot
[01:43] Ninja: why is that so hot
[01:43] Lady: if part of fighting for jim means convincing jim himself that they belong together, then so be it
[01:44] Lady: and okay, talking over, moar sex nao plz
[01:44] Lady: (his grasp of proper standard only lasts so long)
[01:44] Ninja: aaaand onwards to the convincing of jim
[01:45] Lady: this time he has lube! \o/
[01:45] Ninja: success!
[01:45] Lady: spock anticipates much greater success this time
[01:45] Lady: he's also intrigued by these thoughts of jim's he keeps glimpsing, and would very much like more information on this curious concept of "riding"
[01:46] Ninja: i like to think that in a normal pon farr the first orgasm or two is pretty--urmm, let's say single-minded--and then the male takes the edge of enough that he's still feral, but making his partner come tends to become part of this whole control schtick
[01:46] Lady: yesssssssss
[01:46] Ninja: and yes, clearly jim should demonstrate these positions
[01:47] Lady: he's clearly much more experienced, which spock is willing to accept and tolerate because FROM NOW ON jim will be practicing these activities only with spock
[01:48] Ninja: clearly.
[01:48] Ninja: spock is very tolerant.
[01:48] Ninja: -_-
[01:49] Lady: jealousy over the past would be illogical, especially as it has ginen jim such fascinating ideas
[01:49] Lady: *given
[01:49] Ninja: also, as spock has a telepathic connection to jim, he is quite confident of his ability to replace jim's most favoured memories with newer ones.
[01:50] Ninja: better ones.
[01:50] Ninja: that include his bondmate.
[01:50] Lady: a forward-thinker, that spock
[01:51] Ninja: he knows how to set goals and complete the steps to reach those goals with efficiency
[01:51] Lady: there may well be more lists involved
[01:51] Ninja: itemized!
[01:52] Lady: "no, jim, we are scheduled to investigate aquatic sex before we move on to bondage."
[01:52] Ninja: and prioritized. separated into sub-categories according to degree of complexity and the necessity of ulterior accessories
[01:53] Ninja: mmm, jim in bondage
[01:53] Lady: he would be quite firm about it. he spent a great deal of time organizing things into a proper escalation
[01:53] Ninja: a proper education needs to be carefully gauged in terms of skill level and aptitude
[01:53] Lady: jim would occasionally sneak in and add things to the list
[01:54] Ninja: "jim, i believe we have previously discussed the inadvisability of chocolate body paint."
[01:54] Lady: beat me to it XD
[01:54] Ninja: hee!
[01:54] Lady: "but you'd get all out of control; it'd be like a little mini pon farr! c'mon, -please-?"
[01:55] Lady: and thus jim would teach spock about the benefits of flexibility
[01:56] Ninja: "i do not require intoxication or foreign substances to extract your submission, jim. if that is your aim, you had only to ask."
[01:56] Ninja: and here jim realizes spock is between him and the door
So, if you can slog your way through the non-linear nature of our madness, ENJOY!
ninjaboots says: "There is no plot and no point to these pieces of pornish prurience, merely dirty sweaty man-filth! you may note that events are sketched in only broadest terms until Mr. Spock and Mr. Kirk begin to engage in coitus, at which point the level of detail and vocabulary jumps roughly three hundred percent. please pretend you didn't notice."
[00:16] Ninja: and this one says 'arranged marriages between the children of vulcan clans and highly-gifted human children to facilitate political bonds'
[00:17] Lady: DAMN YOU THIS IS YOUR FAULT
[00:18] Ninja: they were your bunnies to start with, it's all on you!
[00:18] Lady: THAT IS NOT TRUE
[00:18] Ninja: i saw the wand, i am a credible witness
[00:18] Lady: IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT THAT I AM NOW IMAGINING A K/S AMOK-TIME REMIX
[00:18] Ninja: in which jim is t'pring?
[00:18] Lady: YES
[00:18] Ninja: THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
[00:19] Ninja: imagine bb!spock meeting bb!jim to be BONDED! aww!
[00:19] Lady: they haven't seen each other since they were seven, and jim doesn't want to be engaged to some vulcan kid, much less marry him
[00:19] Ninja: jim would be in little vulcan robes for the occasion!
[00:19] Ninja: and he'd be all fidgety!
[00:20] Lady: spock is UPTIGHT and BORING and jim will be damned if he'll be his warm body during pon farr
[00:20] Ninja: his memory of spock is of a small, silent, slight kid
[00:20] Ninja: not interesting.
[00:21] Lady: so he's all, "i'ma challenge him at the ceremony, because that's the only time i can legally do so, and then we'll go our separate ways."
[00:21] Ninja: haha. right, jim.
[00:21] Lady: because no one's told him that a) the challenge is to the death, and that b) even if it weren't, spock would die anyway if he didn't consummate his pon farr
[00:21] Ninja: can spock pin him on the ground during the challenge and--not kill him?
[00:22] Lady: i don't think jim would willingly let even a complete stranger die because of him
[00:22] Ninja: exhibit a: nero
[00:22] Ninja: so basically, jim's choices are to kill, be killed, or get fucked
[00:23] Lady: jim would be dating gary mitchell
[00:24] Ninja: hmph.
[00:24] Ninja: is gary an asshole?
[00:24] Lady: (not super-evil!gary, just a-little-bit-of-a-douche-but-still-jim's-friend!gary)
[00:24] Ninja: are they dating or screwing?
[00:24] Lady: dating
[00:25] Ninja: k
[00:25] Lady: and they have this plan where jim will challenge spock when it's time, and gary will fight him--since spock will be all weakened from the plak tow, and he'll stand a decent chance--and then jim will be free and spock can go fuck someone else
[00:26] Ninja: uh. right.
[00:26] Lady: see, this is what comes of vulcan reticence. a failure to communicate is nobody's friend.
[00:26] Ninja: you, uh, might wanna do a bit more research, boys. i mean, i'd assume that as a vulcan's bondmate jim would get SOME access
[00:27] Lady: i'm thinking probably still not, actually
[00:27] Lady: i mean, he probably got instructed on what the bond will be like, and what it will mean, and what will be expected of him when spock gets all biologically hot and bothered
[00:27] Ninja: and that's about it, yeah
[00:27] Ninja: so how does this plan turn out?
[00:28] Lady: but no one actually ever expects anyone to challenge. a challenge hasn't happened in the past thousand years or so.
[00:28] Ninja: it is illogical.
[00:28] Lady: and it's shameful to talk about, so why even bother? it's a nonissue
[00:29] Ninja: silly vulcans
[00:29] Lady: several months before spock's pon farr is due to start, though (because in this 'verse they can predict these things with great accuracy) his parents convince him to go to earth to see his bondmate and "get to know each other" (his mother's words)
[00:29] Lady: jim is surprised to find that spock grew up GOOD
[00:29] Ninja: spock is freaking hot
[00:29] Lady: spock is surprised to find that jim grew up remarkably, almost intimidatingly intelligent
[00:30] Ninja: and by 'intimidatingly', spock rather means 'damn, i want to meld that shit'
[00:30] Lady: yes -_-
[00:30] Ninja: and. . . gary is a douche?
[00:30] Lady: gary doesn't like the idea of the two of them spending time together
[00:31] Ninja: well, in his defence, he's well aware that he's jim's boyfriend and spock is his sort of fiance
[00:31] Lady: i imagine spock has planned out a series of several "dates" in which they will learn of each other's interests and activities
[00:31] Lady: it's possible this would be a formal list of some kind
[00:31] Ninja: heeee!
[00:32] Ninja: do you think he got amanda's stamp of approval?
[00:32] Ninja: or rather, do you think she vetoed one or two things?
[00:33] Lady: i'm torn between "yes, though it was less a 'stamp of approval' and more her barely glancing at it because she was trying so hard not to giggle" and "no, because he wasn't going to talk about dating his bondmate with his MOTHER, that was . . . well, if vulcans got embarrassed it would be over something like that"
[00:34] Ninja: adorable!
[00:34] Lady: and jim's reassuring gary that it's just a formality, he doesn't -want- to be bonded to spock, everything's still cool
[00:34] Lady: there is possibly desperate, rough reassurance sex involved
[00:35] Ninja: okay, question: are gary and jim in love, or in like and in lust?
[00:36] Lady: (HEEEEEEEEEEE and i just imagined the human bondmates being selected in part because according to brain scans they show signs of developing into natural sexual bottoms XD)
[00:36] Lady: the second, definitely
[00:36] Lady: they don't have plans to be together forever or anything
[00:36] Lady: but it's a step or two up from casual
[00:36] Ninja: because as rabidly possessive of my otp as i am, i don't really like the breaking up people in love thing
[00:36] Ninja: okay, cool
[00:37] Ninja: (well, there have to be SOME vulcan bottoms or that population would be in trouble, hee)
[00:38] Lady: (i always imagined that the females go through strict training in order to learn how to be properly submissive during pon farr, in order to minimize injury to both parties)
[00:39] Ninja: (i always sort of figured that as far as vulcans were concerned, possession was everything. they are possessive naturally. who is on top or bottom is, in a lot of cases, irrelevant as long as it is made clear that they belong to each other. this naturally develops into polarized sexual preferences in most bonded pairs.)
[00:40] Lady: so spock and jim go out on these dates, and jim probably drags spock off to do something actually -fun- halfway through most of them. and they -do- get to know each other, and to their surprise they actually . . . well, they don't always get along in the strictest sense, but even their disagreements are remarkably . . . um, stimulating.
[00:41] Ninja: maybe it's the bond, maybe it's something else, but.
[00:41] Lady: at one point i think jim would have tickets to some sciency thing, and gary would either have no interest in the topic or be pissed at jim for something, so he asks spock instead
[00:41] Ninja: is jim finding that for the first time in his life he can really -feel- the bond? can he feel the bond?
[00:42] Lady: spock is surprisingly gratified by jim's invitation
[00:42] Lady: i sort of figured that, much as i imagine happened with t'pring, spock sort of blocked off/ignored the bond for most of his life
[00:42] Ninja: awww!
[00:42] Lady: so there wasn't really anything to feel
[00:42] Ninja: fair enough
[00:42] Lady: but possibly he's rethinking that now
[00:43] Ninja: eeeee
[00:43] Lady: it's possible, he thinks, that this bond is not the trap he first felt it to be
[00:43] Ninja: spock or jim?
[00:43] Lady: spock
[00:43] Ninja: figured, the language there sounded more like spock
[00:44] Lady: meanwhile, he's always talking to jim about when they are bonded. he makes it clear that he doesn't expect jim to derail or defer his plans in order to accommodate spock.
[00:44] Ninja: has jim told him about his plan to challenge the bond?
[00:45] Lady: (he'd always imagined that his pon farr would hit, they'd complete the bond, and then just live their separate lives for the next seven years)
[00:45] Lady: (now he finds he's willing to consider the possibility of them actually having a life together, and ready to make compromises to that effect)
[00:45] Ninja: how. . . cold. why on earth would a human agree to that?
[00:45] Ninja: i mean, honestly spock. you know what you're getting out of it, but why would a human want that?
[00:46] Lady: actually, if he'd said that to jim at the beginning he'd probably have been fine with it
[00:46] Ninja: lol
[00:46] Ninja: true
[00:46] Lady: mostly because he hadn't known quite what the bond was, in a practical, firsthand experience sort of way
[00:47] Ninja: interesting point
[00:47] Lady: but no, he hasn't told spock about his plan. and now he's starting to feel guilty, because spock actually seems like a pretty nice guy, and he seems willing to make a lot of allowances for the life jim wants to lead
[00:48] Lady: and there's a part of him that's thinking this bond might not be -so- bad after all
[00:49] Lady: but he's been rebelling against the idea for most of his life; it's practically a part of him now, his very resistance to the idea. and there's gary to consider, and . . . he just can't do it. he has to challenge. spock will find someone else. and it's not like they're soulmates or anything; they barely know each other.
[00:50] Ninja: oh, jim.
[00:50] Ninja: i seem to say that a lot, but. JIM.
[00:50] Lady: so finally the day comes
[00:51] Ninja: god, poor spock
[00:51] Lady: with the bond reopened he can -feel- spock burning; it probably wakes him up when it begins
[00:51] Ninja: i'm almost hoping he's too far gone to feel betrayed
[00:52] Ninja: because jim doesn't understand just what kind of betrayal is going on here
[00:52] Lady: he doesn't
[00:52] Ninja: but, oh god, poor spock
[00:52] Lady: they're at the appointed place (the vulcan embassy, probably, has an arena set up)
[00:53] Lady: and jim is all nervous and he kind of feels like he's gonna throw up
[00:53] Lady: gary's there, and he keeps giving him encouraging looks
[00:53] Ninja: man, I'M all nervous right now on everyone's behalf
[00:53] Lady: and jim can -feel spock burning-
[00:54] Ninja: jim, you moron, -spock will kill gary-
[00:54] Lady: jim can barely get the words out to challenge
[00:54] Ninja: i know he's not a moron, he doesn't know, but oh. my. god.
[00:54] Ninja: nooooo
[00:55] Lady: but he does
[00:55] Lady: trying to apologize to spock with his eyes
[00:55] Lady: and trying to convey why he's doing it across their bond
[00:55] Ninja: you have no idea how upset and nervous i am right now
[00:55] Lady: but spock isn't responding, and he feels like FIRE in jim's mind now
[00:56] Ninja: jim, spock can't feel anything right now but 'MINE'
[00:56] Lady: (god, why is possessiveness SO HOT?)
[00:56] Ninja: (aside from the obligatory pon farr burning joke here?)
[00:56] Lady: (yes please)
[00:57] Lady: he and gary square off, and gary's had months of training for this, and it's his planet with his environmental conditions, and he's not weakened by the strain of the plak tow
[00:57] Ninja: (hee! because the thought of spock taking what belongs to him and proving to jim who owns his pleasure is possibly the hottest thing ever in the history of the erotic)
[00:58] Lady: (OH MY GOD THE PHRASE "OWNS HIS PLEASURE" IS NOW ENGRAVED ON MY MIND FOREVER)
[00:58] Lady: but, when it comes right down to it, spock is a vulcan
[00:59] Lady: even weakened he's still stronger
[00:59] Ninja: (THAT IS WHAT SPOCK DOES TO JIM WITH THE MIND MELD, YES. ENGRAVING THESE FACTS ON HIS MIND)
[00:59] Ninja: oh man oh man
[00:59] Lady: and it's not until sometime towards the end that someone mentions that btw, this is to the death
[00:59] Ninja: what's jim thinking right now, seeing how utterly lost in savagery spock is
[00:59] Lady: well, once he hears that, he panicks
[01:00] Lady: because he cares about both of them
[01:00] Lady: and he didn't know one of them was going to DIE
[01:01] Lady: before anyone can stop him he's running out onto the field, shouting at both of them to stop, this isn't worth it, he takes it back
[01:01] Ninja: oh shit
[01:02] Lady: he revokes the challenge, he'll have spock, just stop, stop PLEASE
[01:02] Ninja: cue every vulcan there holding her breath to hope that spock sees his mate and snaps into conquest mode instead of staying in warrior mode
[01:02] Lady: which he does
[01:03] Lady: as soon as jim's in range spock just shoves gary aside and grabs jim
[01:03] Ninja: (also i am imagining spock carrying kirk off the field over his shoulder, oh gawd. i know he probably doesn't have even that much control left but it is a HOT IMAGE)
[01:03] Lady: he really doesn't have -nearly- that much control
[01:03] Lady: jim is pinned to the ground and covered in spock before gary even stops falling
[01:04] Ninja: yeah, i figured there would be jim-smexing right then and there
[01:04] Lady: and jim's sort of freaked out, because NO ONE ADEQUATELY EXPLAINED THE DETAILS OF PON FARR
[01:04] Ninja: hoshit
[01:05] Ninja: he was just like 'so then we done sex, right?'
[01:05] Ninja: and they were all like '. . .right. i'mma leave now.'
[01:05] Lady: and he never imagined that spock could be like this, so out of control and violent
[01:05] Lady: and now all the vulcans are discreetly clearing out, yeah
[01:06] Ninja: possibly corralling gary out as well
[01:06] Lady: definitely
[01:06] Lady: though he's beaten up enough at this point that it doesn't take much effort
[01:06] Ninja: no doubt
[01:07] Lady: and spock is tearing at the robes jim's donned for the occasion and jim is desperately trying to remind himself to submit, which is pretty much the only advice he's been given but it's been drilled into his head over and over again
[01:08] Ninja: poor, freaked jim
[01:09] Lady: and spock keeps growling things in vulcan, and jim doesn't understand them but spock must also be doing something to the bond because now jim's not just feeling spock burn. he's burning right along with him.
[01:09] Ninja: (quite frankly, AS AM I)
[01:10] Lady: they're wrestling there in the dirt of the arena, tearing at each other's clothes
[01:10] Ninja: *whimper*
[01:10] Lady: desperate to get to skin
[01:12] Lady: jim has forgotten at this point that he neglected his "ritual preparations" because he didn't think he'd be going through with this
[01:12] Ninja: oops
[01:12] Lady: and doesn't remember until spock pushes inside him and it HURTS
[01:12] Ninja: WE CAN HAS RIMMING
[01:12] Ninja: i mean, uh, that isn't a kink of mine at all
[01:12] Lady: lol
[01:13] Lady: but spock's way too far gone now to stop
[01:13] Ninja: absolutely
[01:13] Lady: though it only takes a few--very painful--thrusts before he comes
[01:13] Lady: and, well, that helps a bit
[01:14] Ninja: i imagine it would
[01:14] Ninja: at this point jim is just gasping through it?
[01:14] Lady: in a variety of ways, because some tiny piece of awareness seems to trickle back at that point
[01:15] Lady: yes. it hurts, and he's not really enjoying it, but he's still burning and he can't stop moving his hips
[01:15] Ninja: ooh
[01:15] Ninja: is he soft?
[01:15] Ninja: i kinda want him to be, so he has to get going again
[01:16] Lady: he is :lol:
[01:16] Ninja: i know, i know
[01:16] Lady: spock seems to be picking up on jim's pain now, or maybe this is just the next step, jim doesn't know, but he brings his hand up and melds them and SHIT, they haven't done this since they were seven and getting betrothed and it is NOT THE SAME
[01:17] Ninja: heeeeee!
[01:17] Lady: spock's mind wasn't this hot then, it didn't sweep through jim like fire, didn't seem to fuse their thoughts together until he couldn't tell that they were still two people
[01:18] Lady: there's anger, and betrayal, and vicious, possessive satisfaction because his mate is HERE, he is HIS, he is claimed and none other will ever have him
[01:19] Ninja: oh god
[01:20] Lady: and alongside that there's sorrow and regret, and the desperate hope for understanding
[01:20] Ninja: but only the barest echo, i imagine, still mostly overshadowed by the crackling and snapping conflagration that is a vulcan roused
[01:21] Lady: jim can't tell which feelings are his and which are spock's anymore. they're -all- his, all theirs, and running between them there's this thin, frayed thread of something like affection and admiration that seems to be doubled, the same thing in both their minds even before the meld
[01:22] Lady: he clings to that like a lifeline, pulling it to the forefront and wrapping it around himself as best he can
[01:23] Ninja: intense!
[01:25] Lady: whatever it is, it wants spock as well. jim can feel it reaching out for him, trying to pull him in too. and he helps it, finding all the scattered pieces of his bondmate and pulling them into himself, binding them with this thread.
[01:25] Ninja: jim, my lad, you really have no idea what you're doing, do you?
[01:25] Lady: and the next time he feels spock's mind say "MINE" he answers, "YOURS"
[01:26] Ninja: because oh, he is.
[01:26] Ninja: oh.
[01:27] Lady: and this thread isn't as thin and frayed as he thought it was. because the rage and hurt are fading, and as they go they uncover more and more of this warmth, this trust and need and certainty
[01:29] Lady: until jim starts to recognize it, because it feels like what he's been feeling more and more in spock's company as they've gotten to know each other
[01:29] Ninja: *flailflail*
[01:30] Lady: and he wants it, he doesn't want to give it up, he WON'T give it up, and he's confused but that's not him because he knows what this is, it's love and he wonders when, exactly, this happened
[01:30] Ninja: oh sweetie
[01:32] Lady: he's vaguely aware that his physical body is clinging to spock's, pulling him closer and moving just as desperately as the vulcan on top of him
[01:32] Ninja: echoed in the mental plane?
[01:32] Lady: yes
[01:33] Lady: he feels spock's mind, somehow part of his and still separate enough to dig in with greedy mental fingers
[01:33] Lady: and jim's mind is clinging right back
[01:33] Ninja: (you are aware that i am incapable of seeing jim's mind as anything but a baby monkey now?)
[01:34] Lady: (hee! my purpose in life is complete! \o/)
[01:35] Lady: until finally spock is coming again, and jim must have gotten hard at some point because he's coming right along with him
[01:36] Ninja: moment of lucidity?
[01:36] Ninja: ish?
[01:36] Lady: spock's mind pulls back, sliding out of jim's, but somehow they're still connected. there's spock's mind, and jim's mind, and somewhere in the middle where they're still mingled together like a venn diagram and okay he KNOWS that wasn't his thought
[01:36] Ninja: heeee that is an awesome spock-thought!
[01:37] Lady: and they both manage to come back to themselves long enough to realize that, um, they're naked in the dirt, and maybe they should see if there are any clothes and, like, a bed or something
[01:38] Lady: also some water, because they're verging on dehydration now
[01:38] Lady: spock isn't willing to let jim get more than an arm's length away
[01:38] Ninja: dirty sweaty naked manflesh
[01:39] Ninja: yeah, the edge has been taken off but pon farr lasts signficantly longer than half an hour
[01:39] Lady: he keeps pulling him back to nuzzle at bits of bare skin and take jim's mouth with his
[01:39] Lady: it's . . . distracting
[01:39] Ninja: um. oh.
[01:39] Ninja: yes it is.
[01:40] Ninja: is spock still communicating solely in vulcan?
[01:40] Lady: they finally find that bed (possibly there are signs leading the way, and a pointed lack of other people)
[01:40] Ninja: signs! hee!
[01:40] Ninja: with arrows!
[01:41] Lady: tough to say, as he's not really -saying- much of anything
[01:41] Ninja: LUBE THIS WAY
[01:41] Ninja: ah, now he's pre-verba;
[01:41] Ninja: *pre-verbal
[01:41] Lady: though when they're finally lying down and he's seen to jim as best he can in his current state, he does seem to remember standard
[01:42] Ninja: ooh!
[01:43] Lady: if only enough to convey that they will need to have a discussion after his time has passed, but he wishes to make it PERFECTLY CLEAR right now that jim is HIS, he will no longer tolerate competition of any kind, and had he been aware of the need earlier he would have fought gary for him before his pon farr even began
[01:43] Ninja: hot
[01:43] Ninja: why is that so hot
[01:43] Lady: if part of fighting for jim means convincing jim himself that they belong together, then so be it
[01:44] Lady: and okay, talking over, moar sex nao plz
[01:44] Lady: (his grasp of proper standard only lasts so long)
[01:44] Ninja: aaaand onwards to the convincing of jim
[01:45] Lady: this time he has lube! \o/
[01:45] Ninja: success!
[01:45] Lady: spock anticipates much greater success this time
[01:45] Lady: he's also intrigued by these thoughts of jim's he keeps glimpsing, and would very much like more information on this curious concept of "riding"
[01:46] Ninja: i like to think that in a normal pon farr the first orgasm or two is pretty--urmm, let's say single-minded--and then the male takes the edge of enough that he's still feral, but making his partner come tends to become part of this whole control schtick
[01:46] Lady: yesssssssss
[01:46] Ninja: and yes, clearly jim should demonstrate these positions
[01:47] Lady: he's clearly much more experienced, which spock is willing to accept and tolerate because FROM NOW ON jim will be practicing these activities only with spock
[01:48] Ninja: clearly.
[01:48] Ninja: spock is very tolerant.
[01:48] Ninja: -_-
[01:49] Lady: jealousy over the past would be illogical, especially as it has ginen jim such fascinating ideas
[01:49] Lady: *given
[01:49] Ninja: also, as spock has a telepathic connection to jim, he is quite confident of his ability to replace jim's most favoured memories with newer ones.
[01:50] Ninja: better ones.
[01:50] Ninja: that include his bondmate.
[01:50] Lady: a forward-thinker, that spock
[01:51] Ninja: he knows how to set goals and complete the steps to reach those goals with efficiency
[01:51] Lady: there may well be more lists involved
[01:51] Ninja: itemized!
[01:52] Lady: "no, jim, we are scheduled to investigate aquatic sex before we move on to bondage."
[01:52] Ninja: and prioritized. separated into sub-categories according to degree of complexity and the necessity of ulterior accessories
[01:53] Ninja: mmm, jim in bondage
[01:53] Lady: he would be quite firm about it. he spent a great deal of time organizing things into a proper escalation
[01:53] Ninja: a proper education needs to be carefully gauged in terms of skill level and aptitude
[01:53] Lady: jim would occasionally sneak in and add things to the list
[01:54] Ninja: "jim, i believe we have previously discussed the inadvisability of chocolate body paint."
[01:54] Lady: beat me to it XD
[01:54] Ninja: hee!
[01:54] Lady: "but you'd get all out of control; it'd be like a little mini pon farr! c'mon, -please-?"
[01:55] Lady: and thus jim would teach spock about the benefits of flexibility
[01:56] Ninja: "i do not require intoxication or foreign substances to extract your submission, jim. if that is your aim, you had only to ask."
[01:56] Ninja: and here jim realizes spock is between him and the door