Steven Moffat, Meet That Sexist Pig: A Cautionary Tale

Feb 09, 2014 22:22

Yet Another Post on Sexism in Moffat's ShowsI have reluctantly come to the conclusion that Steven Moffat is the Ben Steed of his generation. For those not up on their BBC TV writers of thirty-plus years ago, Ben Steed was a writer for Blake’s 7 (among other things), now widely remembered in Blake’s 7 fandom as that sexist pig. This is a shame for ( Read more... )

b7, sherlock, doctor who, gender, meta

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slantiness February 12 2014, 14:50:20 UTC
Does Moffat still have a chance? I feel like everywhere I look someone's posting another essay on what he did wrong or some crazy sexist thing he did. Last week I saw something about him saying that he wouldn't make a character asexual because it's "boring" and there's "no tension there,"
and way back in 2007 or so my friends were already complaining about the episode that they called "the bitch in the barbeque" because they refused to call it by name--I assume you know which one that is.

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slantiness February 12 2014, 14:51:50 UTC
I just realized you can't tell from what i just wrote which "side" I am on, so I should establish that I am pretty squarely anti-moffat. I haven't watched any Doctor Who in a really, really long time (like....since 2008...?) and I'm trying to catch up with Sherlock now, but the knowledge that this is all Moffat is sort of kicking at me while I'm watching it. (I'm on the episode with The Woman)

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labingi February 12 2014, 16:46:46 UTC
Good points! Speaking for myself as a viewer and sometime fan of both shows, I think he has a long way to go to win back viewer trust. These days, my default in watching his shows is to rigorously gender pick them; my sensitivity to even small bits of genderfail is hyperactive, and judging by the internet response you note, I'm far from the only one.

That said, he can and will score points back by writing women well. Case in point, a lot of fans have expressed a basically positive response to Mary because she is witty and skilled and doesn't (try to) break up Sherlock and John. Those are all good characteristics and, yes, people notice. Viewers went into DW and Sherlock liking the stories and wanting to be fans, and while the fail may not be soon forgotten, he can start to turn it around anytime he wants.

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slantiness February 13 2014, 10:04:56 UTC
That's true, but I think he's failing a lot *outside* the writing, just in his interviews and such. Another anecdote (sorry I have all these weird, floating internet anecdotes): I saw the other day he had said something about how obviously Mary HAD to be a killer/psychopath, what have you, because she was just too interesting or too fun or was too cool to be "just a nurse" or something like that, and so he said the viewer should have been surprised, but also somehow expecting.

My female nurse friend was particularly offended by that one. "Of course, if I'm an interesting female nurse, people should be able to guess I'm a killer, too, gee thanks Moffat"

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labingi February 17 2014, 18:09:00 UTC
Sorry for a late reply. Yeah, the dismissal of nurses is a good example of Moffat's foot in his mouth. I'm fine with the idea that John is an adrenaline junkie attracted to other adrenaline junkies. (I'd just like the people he's attracted to to be written as people.) But, yeah, there's no need to express that by belittling an entire (traditionally female) profession, and one that includes more excitement than many.

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