Feeding the Trolls: an open letter to Vox Day.

Jun 13, 2013 14:48

Not everyone on the internet agrees with each other. Not everyone is kind or nice or decent. Some people are controversial, for good or for bad. It's part of how we are as a species -- we argue, we confront, we question. Some people are painful to know, to read. Some people speak frightening truths ( Read more... )

women, politics, sfwa

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were_gopher June 13 2013, 13:54:53 UTC
HERE HERE!!!

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mevennen June 13 2013, 14:13:10 UTC
He's a very weird bloke. He's also prone to posting links to the Daily Mail to prove his points, which as we all know, has the drop on crazed hordes of Moslems over-running this country.

Profoundly intellectually dishonest. His 'sigma male' definition sounds like the common-or-garden sociopath so I suspect that one's answer is right there.

I'm not up for withdrawing his membership, as it supports his view that women writers (who, as we all know, rule the entire universe with an iron oven glove*) are Out To Get Him, but in the UK, this would be hate speech and he almost certainly would be booted out for it. I'm not sure where US law stands on this.

*BTW next Wimmins' Illuminati Cabal is on Monday, my place. Bring cake.

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la_marquise_de_ June 13 2013, 14:16:44 UTC
I don't know what the US law is on that, either. And I don't care if he thinks the wimminz are after him: this one *is*, and what he wrote is disgusting.
Cake and wine :-)

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dancinghorse June 13 2013, 14:24:00 UTC
I'll bring the cheesecake. And the cauldron. Who'll bring the double trouble and the bubbles?

Good lord. That idiot. He is, alas, not alone in his, ahem, views.

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mevennen June 13 2013, 14:35:54 UTC
I'll supply the double trouble. I usually do.

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woolymonkey June 13 2013, 14:17:26 UTC
I've never heard of him and I'm not about to google for enlightenment. He sounds like a total dickhead.

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suricattus June 13 2013, 15:14:11 UTC
Beyond dickhead...he's a classic case of failure being blamed on Others, with bile stirred into the mix.

Hateful is the least of what can be said about him.

Previous to this I would have been hesitant to call for a revocation of membership, because that's a tool that can be abused, but attempting to use SFWA's forum to launch a hate-screed against a fellow member should certainly call for censure/banning.

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la_marquise_de_ June 13 2013, 17:41:19 UTC
Me too. But this particular piece of behaviour, on top of the ways he's spoken to/about other members in recent months is beyond what I find tolerable. It's an attempt to bully, for one thing, as well as the racism and sexism.

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barbarienne June 13 2013, 15:43:01 UTC
He's on the shortlist of people about whom, if he were run over by a bus, my reaction would be "Good riddance." A completely loathsome piece of shit in every way possible.

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steepholm June 13 2013, 14:23:08 UTC
I just read his blog, and - yeah, wow. I'd have thought the racism there was enough to get him booted out, even omitting the misogyny.

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sartorias June 13 2013, 14:24:21 UTC
Ugh. This is upsetting.

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la_marquise_de_ June 13 2013, 17:41:41 UTC
It's deeply upsetting.

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