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wantedtostudy August 29 2009, 06:12:57 UTC
...how interesting.

You're fond of mathematics as well, then?

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kyudousha September 1 2009, 01:38:45 UTC
You could say that.

... Out of curiosity, did you get any of that?

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wantedtostudy September 1 2009, 02:07:57 UTC
To be honest, it went by too quickly for me to make sense of it.

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kyudousha September 1 2009, 02:19:24 UTC
I suppose. It was kinda fast in my head too, but I'm pretty used to this kind of thing.

It was the mathematical proof for Phi. It's the 'golden ratio' of perfect proportions. People say that it influences the way people perceive beauty, but really, my interest in it only extends to about as much as it covers in geometry. Most formulae diagrams are designed in proportion to the ratio because it's very efficient.

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wantedtostudy September 1 2009, 02:31:33 UTC
I see. How curious, I don't know if such a theory exists in my world. Perhaps our mathematicians aren't quite as advanced as yours.

In what way does it influence our perception of beauty?

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kyudousha September 1 2009, 02:54:41 UTC
... I really can't imagine a world that doesn't use these principle, to be honest, but... I guess worlds are really different in that way.

I actually haven't put any of the theories on Phi to work, besides the obvious proportions, like pentagrams. But people found that the golden ratio's found in a lot of nature, like the proportions of leaves and stems, or chemical formulae, or even rock formations. Typically things that are pleasing to the eye. So someone developed a theory on how the golden ratio has an application on human body proportions, and apparently, a person's beautiful to our eyes because they satisfy the ratio.

I never found a use for that kind of thing, but... it's interesting.

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wantedtostudy September 1 2009, 03:02:40 UTC
Ah, my apologies. I didn't mean to suggest that Azeroth didn't use those principles, but perhaps the theory has not yet been recognized. Or perhaps the failing is my own, if I must be honest.

I have to agree. It does sound fascinating that it's such a common occurrence.

...can I ask why you've "never found a use for that kind of thing"?

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kyudousha September 1 2009, 03:05:23 UTC
Can't just be your failing. There must be other people who have time on their hands who should be studying this sort of thing. Like... artisans. Or people who this actually matters for.

... And as for your question... Well, can't you guess?

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wantedtostudy September 1 2009, 03:13:05 UTC
If they have, it would be mine for not becoming aware of it sooner.

Of course I can guess. I'd rather hear it from you, though.

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kyudousha September 1 2009, 03:28:51 UTC
To each their own. I wouldn't be so worried about it. Besides, there must be some book in the library about it. Better now than never.

... I can't say I care too much for beauty. Unless it's, you know, blastia. Or magic.

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wantedtostudy September 1 2009, 03:36:40 UTC
You have a good point. I'll read up on it tomorrow.

That's very interesting. Still, beauty's not necessarily a bad thing...

...tell me about these 'blastia,' if you wouldn't mind?

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kyudousha September 1 2009, 03:47:02 UTC
Not a bad thing. It's just a waste of time. What's aethsetically appealing to the eye doesn't necessarily mean it has a practical use, and unpractical things aren't really my thing.

You want the long version or the short version?

[Ooc: Because I totally fail and am still trying to get my bearings. Dx Should I do the TL;DR blastiaschpeel here, or with our library thread, since... I'm pretty interested in keeping it going? On that note, does this conversation take place before or after the library? xD ... Like I said, I totally fail. xD]

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wantedtostudy September 1 2009, 03:49:02 UTC
Even impractical things can have their own uses.

We already discussed the mechanics - I'm more interested in how they're used in your world, to be frank.

(ooc: We can do it back in the library, which this takes place after :D)

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kyudousha September 1 2009, 04:09:31 UTC
Why would you want to use it if it's impractical? That's like trying to make it hard for yourself to get the job done ( ... )

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wantedtostudy September 1 2009, 04:23:55 UTC
I didn't say it had to have a use for our line of work, either. Our worlds require all types of people.

I see. That's very interesting - so these sorts of formulas you're talking about are key to the actual use of magic in your world? In other words... to operate them is how one might operate an unimaginably complex machine.

And I imagine the knowledge from this ancient civilization was undoubtedly lost. Are there no records?

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kyudousha September 1 2009, 04:30:16 UTC
I'd think it'd apply for all lines of work, really. Isn't it the point to get things done without wasting time? So if it's not practical, then what's the point?

... That'd be a good analogy. You've got a lot of those. Like switching functions on and off, restricting the patterns of the aer to make things happen - but we've already discussed that.

They're still living, actually, kinda. Though they've abandoned the technology - the blastia. I... The reason, it's complicated.

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