The Deadly Hobo Recluse Funnel Widow

Jul 18, 2011 17:36

So I'm kind of stuck at home today, keeping an eye on the doglet, with nothing to amuse myself but the Internet. It's okay: I make my own fun.

Like Googling "deadly brown recluse" until I feel superior, for example.

Poor huntsman.

That isn't even a spider.

Agelenid.

Wolf spider, looks like.

'Nother wolf.

Golden silk spider!

Orb weaver! Read more... )

arachnophobia schmarachnophobia

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archteryx July 19 2011, 00:52:26 UTC
So what does a Brown Recluse *actually* look like?

A disabled friend of mine's lived over a decade of hell on Earth because of a confirmed bite by one of those little boogers. Had an entire leg go necrotic on him (though not so much so that it had to be amputated). The idiot authors may not know what the spiders look like, but the real deal's no joke.

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tacet July 19 2011, 01:07:23 UTC
They are "fiddlebacks" See over the head.
3/8" to less than 1/2".
Fine leg hairs, no spines.
uniform legs and back with only one color, no mottling.
Bites are actually rare. The spider bit our disabled friend because he was about to roll over it in his sleep.

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kynekh_amagire July 19 2011, 01:33:05 UTC
Male.
Female.
Showing eyes.
Here is where you find them.

Lots of spiders are brown, and lots have a "violin" marking. The important characteristics that conclusively distinguish the brown recluse from similar spiders are things like their eye pattern (Loxosceles is a six-eyed genus, with their eyes arranged in three distinct pairs: most spiders have eight). Aside from the infamous violin (which some individuals have, and some don't), they are also unsually smoothly-colored spiders, with no banding or patterning on the legs or abdomen, and no visible spines on the legs. They are also fairly small spiders, mostly not larger than could comfortably stand on a U.S. quarter with legs fully stretched out.

With that said, and with sympathy for your friend, brown recluses aren't a threat to most people. Being bitten at all is rare, considering how common the spider is in its range, and most bites are "dry bites" which inject no venom. Nearly all bites where envenomation definitely took place heal on their own, and misdiagnosis is still ( ... )

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sandelwood July 19 2011, 01:43:11 UTC
I wonder how many bites from other relatively harmless species occur that the individual simply has a bad reaction to, or the spider perhaps carried a bacteria that caused the bite to infect, and was blamed on a recluse.

I mean considering how often people get bitten in their sleep by common varieties of house spiders (I can count on 2 or 3 a year, at least), I think it's possible people are just blaming what they fear instead of an also rare but possible occurrence.

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kynekh_amagire July 19 2011, 02:08:43 UTC
Any small puncture wound is a potential avenue for nasty bacteria to enter the body, so I'd say "yep"!

However, I would be fairly surprised if most of those "bitten while sleeping" incidents were attributable to spiders, actually. It's not impossible, but really, people's beds/bedclothes are unlikely spider habitat for a number of reasons (there's nothing for them to eat or mate with, dangerous loud vibrations, difficult terrain). Bedbugs, mosquitoes, biting flies, fleas, and chiggers are more likely.

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sandelwood July 19 2011, 02:52:23 UTC
Don't discount that it does happen, though. I can't count how many times I've been awake in bed, usually reading, and felt something crawl up my leg under the covers, only to throw them back and see a little brown spider running for its life (I just know it's usually not a recluse just because it's brown), or woken up to a squished one. All the time? No, but it happens ( ... )

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kynekh_amagire July 19 2011, 03:44:54 UTC
I still don't buy "a spider bit me while I was asleep" as anything short of a one-in-a-million scenario ( ... )

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archteryx July 19 2011, 01:46:28 UTC
Yeah, in my friend's case, I think they got the spider AND ran an ELISA venom test from the wound (poor circulation in the leg greatly slowed the spread, and they got a sample quickly), so it was a pretty ironclad case. They also tested him for a number of other necrotic diseases, most especially MSRA. Negative.

Brown Recluse venom is weird -- many people react less strongly to it then to a mosquito bite, yeah, but for some small percentage, it triggers some sort of cross-reaction that turns into absolute horror. My friend was one of those unlucky few; he just can't buy a break in his life.

Spiders in general, though, are cool for me, so long as they stay outdoor pets. I actually have a pair of nocturnal, very rough-web hunting spiders outside my door right now, happily disposing of wasps, stinkbugs and other annoyances. More power to them!

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