(I remember asking you something about Dawn and free Will but can't remember my original question!) It was attached to a fic I think - it took me a while to find again!
I hope it's ok to jump in here, I apologize for not having the chance sooner. Hope you know that it's always okay to jump in and the conversation will wait for you!
but it irritates the hell out of me that Dawn exists only to prove Spike's goodness in 99% of Spike & Dawn fanfiction I'm going to reiterate: that's not canon (to me) and I really think that you should read the next meta in this series and get back to me. The idea that this happens boggle my mind. And I hate fandom for you. But also - this relationship is *legitimately* important to Dawn and not just to him within canon and is relevant to her development, so the fact that fandom fucked this relationship up for you pisses me off. But I don't buy it? And I ignore factions of fandom that prioritize males over females (straight up).
I highly encourage everyone to ignore the places in fandom that are negative :)
I don't know the precise theological or academic definition of "Free will" but that, to my mind, isn't "free" at all; there's still a puppetmaster pulling the strings. Yes. Free Will infers that there is a puppetmaster that has "allowed" agency to come forth. Which is exactly the case for Dawn? She is only 'allowed' agency within her narrative once the puppetmaster decides to leave.
OMG I CANNOT WITH COMICS!CANON PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT IT ARGH.
It was attached to a fic I think - it took me a while to find again!
I hope it's ok to jump in here, I apologize for not having the chance sooner.
Hope you know that it's always okay to jump in and the conversation will wait for you!
but it irritates the hell out of me that Dawn exists only to prove Spike's goodness in 99% of Spike & Dawn fanfiction
I'm going to reiterate: that's not canon (to me) and I really think that you should read the next meta in this series and get back to me. The idea that this happens boggle my mind. And I hate fandom for you. But also - this relationship is *legitimately* important to Dawn and not just to him within canon and is relevant to her development, so the fact that fandom fucked this relationship up for you pisses me off. But I don't buy it? And I ignore factions of fandom that prioritize males over females (straight up).
I highly encourage everyone to ignore the places in fandom that are negative :)
I don't know the precise theological or academic definition of "Free will" but that, to my mind, isn't "free" at all; there's still a puppetmaster pulling the strings.
Yes. Free Will infers that there is a puppetmaster that has "allowed" agency to come forth. Which is exactly the case for Dawn? She is only 'allowed' agency within her narrative once the puppetmaster decides to leave.
OMG I CANNOT WITH COMICS!CANON PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT IT ARGH.
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