For the Emperor!

Jun 28, 2010 15:34

I'm hoping this will be of vague interest to at least simonmarshall since it covers something we were talking about a few days back...So I recently decided to fulfill something that I'd wanted to do since I was a kid, which was to get in to Warhammer 40,000. Back when I was young I lived with my mum and we didn't have all that much money, so it was a hobby that ( Read more... )

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kuzanagi_ June 30 2010, 09:29:47 UTC
Very neat which is a great place to start from, messy painting makes life complicated.

Thanks. I've tried to be patient and careful etc.

From the first guy one thing that springs out is your paint is too thick. You can see the texture especially on the terminator's shoulder pads. Hard to tell from the pic but it looks like you've drybrushed metallics on the pad? No issue with that, but it really shows off the paint texture, and there shouldn't really be one. How much did you dillute your paints? I'm not great at this and it's a bit haphazard, but I tend to do one brush load of paint and one brushload of water, I use a small bit of plasticard to mix them on.

Totally agree. When I was painting this guy I was using the technique (if you can call it that!) of taking a little paint from the pot, dropping the excess on to a paper towel then painting the model. Essentially I was using completely undiluted paint :/ For subsequent models I've used water to dilute in the same way you mention above, and I've also tried acrylic flow enhancer which I'm yet to get quite right but I can see that it's got the potential to work better than water. From what I understand water sits separate to the paint when it's diluted so you get a little surface tension, whereas acrylic flow enhancer doesn't. The problem with AFE with miniatures is that you need to uses a ratio of about 5:1 (paint/AFE) which can be tricky to apply compared to water.

Thinner layers will let you change colour a bit more subtley too if you wish.

I'm guessing that better results come from multiple, thin layers? How many layers is to many layers for power armour though? I've got a few I've painted according to GW staff recommendations and they look shit IMO. That was with five layers, although to be fair I probably haven't thinned the paint enough...

But yeah, cracking minis for so early on, edge highlighting on the death company is a little wavey but that comes with practice. I wouldn't stress about the awesome ones at the bottom, those guys have too much time on their hands anyway ;)

Thanks :) I've been using the tip of a fine detail brush to do it, but I think it's just practice really. I did an Assault Terminator in black a few nights back and the edge highlighting is better than my Death Company marine. I'll put a pic up later.

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simonmarshall June 30 2010, 19:04:06 UTC
I've never used flow enhancer but I know people who swear by it. I think the real trouble I have is because I paint slowly the paint on the palette is thickening as I go. Unless I remember to change my paint often it can be back to pot consistency before I finish the section I'm working on. I presume flow enhancer helps there?

Layering is a tricky one, I tend to get bored after four or five, on standard troops it's often more like three (base, wash, lowlight, highlight, bright highlight type thing). If you keep your paints thin enough you can do as many as you want. I've seen models with twenty or thirty and they look awesome, but your paints are more like glazes than actual paint! 10 to 1 water to paint type stuff.

To be honest though if you're going for that intense amount of layering you'd be better learning to blend. I've done wetblending in the past with reasonable success, that is you paint the second colour before the first is dry and physically mix them on the model. As you can imagine takes a lot of practice to pull off right, and is damned near impossible on small areas unless you're very gifted.

Edge highlighting is far easier with the side of a brush. You can't always get the brush into the gap, but for the edges of armour just lightly load the brush and drag it along the edge. You'll get a far finer line than you'll manage with the tip of a brush.

As I've said though I'm not really a painter,hell I cheat and use technical pens for my lettering and numbering ;). Whatever works is my usual theory..

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kuzanagi_ July 5 2010, 10:19:37 UTC
Have you ever tried using a wet palette? I've used them a few times when doing detail work and they're pretty good.

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