Something Pertinent Some More than Others Tonight...

[kurai_kaze]

So... after a few hours of thought, I weigh in on the whole thing. I'm just going to express skepticism that the perfect community exists. I don't know about anyone else, but I tend to romanticize that which I have lost or which I never had. Still, I've never encountered a particularly loving church, or a particularly loving forum. I've encountered

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Good people

[kspaz13]

From Gizmo

Re: Good people

[kurai_kaze]

In my case? No, emphatically no, it does not effect how I view others. For all intents and purposes I'm still in the hole myself, and some days I feel like I'm deeper in the hole than others. But... I mean, look at Kurt's current passion: Soccer. Sports, video games, religion, politics. Pick a topic and people love to divide themselves over it. I think there is just something about us that wants to build walls to block others out. I don't think a wholly loving community will exist once it grows large enough to support cliques. People will divide in to cliques and that will cause the death of love in that community.

My skepticism remains... I think humans are capable of great compassion and love when not presently connecting themselves to a group. It just feels... instinctual, you know?

Re: Good people

[kspaz13]

I really wasn't trying to offend, Kaze. And yes, separation does feel instinctual, but only to a point - at least for me. But I do feel that there is a separation which leaves you connected to those around you and a separation which does not. To use your example, soccer: Yes, they might be different teams - a separation of sorts - but they play the same game. I think religion and politics lend themselves best to the latter.

I have been apart of large groups full of love and . . . goodness, for lack of a better word, but I was young and there is a very good chance I am romanticizing it myself. But I would like to believe I'm not.

Is there maybe a chance that compassion you're looking for is best expressed by an individual toward a greater picture? An individual, I think, would more genuinely express this feat in the fact that they are alone with it.

Re: Good people

[kurai_kaze]

Giz, you have no worry of offending me. I've taken no offense at all. You may not know it, but it actually takes a lot to offend me. I'd like to think I have a pretty thick skin. As for the two separations you mention, I do think they exist within religion in the same way. In soccer there are those who simply love the game - those are the people you mentioned. Then you have people like the Manchester (and British at large) soccer hooligans who fight tooth and claw to be at the top. I've seen both in Christianity and I've seen both in Religion at large... I'd like to think I fall in the good kind of separation, but I think that distinction is more for others to judge of me than myself. I can be too harsh on myself when I shouldn't and too lax when I shouldn't.