and there are millions of versions. i found what i thought to be the correct one, but it looked like it wanted me to burn like 10 cds.
It doesn't make it very clear, but generally you only need the first two CDs. The entire set is just to provide for the very many packages out there - extending to stuff like specialist software for education/biomathematics and the like. I had a quick look: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#which-cd covers it; but the main page didn't make it clear.
but this doesn't include things like Apache 2 which LJ is said not to be able to run on, yes? That doesn't include Apache 2, yes :). Subsequent minor revisions of the Apache 1.x application that enter the Debian repository are suitable though.
and then i couldn't get all the modules installed and it didn't have mysql or apache installed).
In previous installers (not sure if it applies for the new graphical installer used now) the 'tasksel' program included as part of the installer [Link - info a bit outdated: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs03.html.en] just installed stuff oriented to the setup type chosen (if any). So if you chose 'Desktop' as the purpose of the install you'd get KDE/Gnome, X.org graphics server and stuff; electing for a 'Server' install would install stuff oriented to that. Generally it seemed to install a load of unwanted stuff :).
install the Debian packages named 'gcc' and 'cpp' || might make sense to have things such as C compilers to be standard, eh? *shrug*
Oh, I agree. There was a strong push from Debian's userbase though for the default install not to install development-related software (compilers, IDEs and the like). The aim of it was catering for folks installing it to run on their Desktop (perhaps migrating from other OSs) who were not setting up Linux to go writing programming code in IDEs and the like. In practice I think most users find themself needing to install software down the line though that isn't maintained as a Debian package, and is just available as a 'source tarball' download; hence they need a C compiler.
It doesn't make it very clear, but generally you only need the first two CDs. The entire set is just to provide for the very many packages out there - extending to stuff like specialist software for education/biomathematics and the like. I had a quick look: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#which-cd covers it; but the main page didn't make it clear.
but this doesn't include things like Apache 2 which LJ is said not to be able to run on, yes?
That doesn't include Apache 2, yes :). Subsequent minor revisions of the Apache 1.x application that enter the Debian repository are suitable though.
and then i couldn't get all the modules installed and it didn't have mysql or apache installed).
In previous installers (not sure if it applies for the new graphical installer used now) the 'tasksel' program included as part of the installer [Link - info a bit outdated: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs03.html.en] just installed stuff oriented to the setup type chosen (if any). So if you chose 'Desktop' as the purpose of the install you'd get KDE/Gnome, X.org graphics server and stuff; electing for a 'Server' install would install stuff oriented to that. Generally it seemed to install a load of unwanted stuff :).
install the Debian packages named 'gcc' and 'cpp' || might make sense to have things such as C compilers to be standard, eh? *shrug*
Oh, I agree. There was a strong push from Debian's userbase though for the default install not to install development-related software (compilers, IDEs and the like). The aim of it was catering for folks installing it to run on their Desktop (perhaps migrating from other OSs) who were not setting up Linux to go writing programming code in IDEs and the like. In practice I think most users find themself needing to install software down the line though that isn't maintained as a Debian package, and is just available as a 'source tarball' download; hence they need a C compiler.
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