Buffy and Spike- Just Gold... According to Joss
FEARnet's Joe McCabe chats with genre mastermind Joss Whedon
at Comic-Con 2011about the Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 9,
Angel and Faith, and Cabin in the Woods comic books. Buffy:
Season 9 debuts in September 2011. Angel and Faith debuts in August 2011.
Now I don't read the comics, but see a lot about them on my flist.
A while back I saw a page out of the Angel and Faith comic where
Willow and Angel were talking about Buffy. I think moscow_watcher
posted it somewhere. In it, Willow was commenting about the world
that Angel and Buffy created by having sex. And in that world, they were
alone. Angel told Willow he had planned to bring all the people they cared
about to that world. Willow said something along the line that Buffy never
mentioned that. He made a remark about how you couldn't often get a word
in when Buffy was upset. Then Willow agreed with him about how Buffy could
be like that. That just pissed me off.
I always hate when writers take a character too far and then they realize they
have damaged how the fans view that character. One way they try to fix it is
to make the victim seem like they are the bad person. Angel(Twilight) and Buffy having
sex created a new universe. Back in our universe, the gang is dealing with
the aftermath in our universe. Buffy realizes how the situation she left her
friends and the world in so she returns. The seed was destroyed and magic
disappeared in our universe. Twilight controls Angel who kills Giles. So
yeah, Angel now has gone too far as a character so the writers in the new
season decided to make it seem as if Angel had meant to move everyone
to the new universe and Buffy didn't give him the chance. And to strengthen
it, they have Willow agreeing that Buffy just doesn't listen and you can't get
through to her when she is upset. So blame is shifted onto Buffy cause
she just wouldn't let Angel finish his sentence. This is white washing a
character's actions after the fact and shifting the guilt to their victim.
That just bugs me no end. Once again they blame Buffy. This time they
just didn't kick her out of her own house. They talked trash about her
behind her back.
I wrote this rant about Angel and then found this on i09.
8 Epic Heroes Who Committed Mass Murder
7. Angel
In the Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season Eight comic book series, the consciousness of a new universe called Twilight imbues Angel with Superman-like powers. Twilight convinces Angel that in order to fulfill his destiny and save the world, he must kill as many potential Slayers as possible in a gambit to, essentially, antagonize Buffy into having time-travelling astro-sex with him. Their passion results in the creation of the paradise-like Twilight dimension, and heralds the destruction of the present universe. Angel tries to convince Buffy to stay in Twilight and rule, believing it morally wrong to be an absent God in a reality of his own making, but she declines, opting to rescue the present universe by destroying the "Seed of Wonder", the source of all Earthly magic. Twilight demands that Buffy and Angel finish what they started -- it possesses Angel and kills Giles.
On his own TV show, the question of whether Angel was truly a hero, or merely a very talented victim was one of the series major overarching themes. (He did spend two hundred years of immortality eating rats and riding on submarines, not even considering helping the helpless until it was pointed out to him.) Could the actions of a demon, being naturally evil, be compared to those of human beings, who have more or less a choice in their actions? As a human, Angel was a cruel and violent drunk and becoming a vampire ultimately made him a better man. Though to many, the season eight series and Angel's attempt at Slayer-cide provided the final nail in the coffin of Angel's character/crusade.
Seems I'm not the only one who is a bit ticked off about Angel.
at Comic-Con 2011about the Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 9,
Angel and Faith, and Cabin in the Woods comic books. Buffy:
Season 9 debuts in September 2011. Angel and Faith debuts in August 2011.
Click to viewNow I don't read the comics, but see a lot about them on my flist.
A while back I saw a page out of the Angel and Faith comic where
Willow and Angel were talking about Buffy. I think moscow_watcher
posted it somewhere. In it, Willow was commenting about the world
that Angel and Buffy created by having sex. And in that world, they were
alone. Angel told Willow he had planned to bring all the people they cared
about to that world. Willow said something along the line that Buffy never
mentioned that. He made a remark about how you couldn't often get a word
in when Buffy was upset. Then Willow agreed with him about how Buffy could
be like that. That just pissed me off.
I always hate when writers take a character too far and then they realize they
have damaged how the fans view that character. One way they try to fix it is
to make the victim seem like they are the bad person. Angel(Twilight) and Buffy having
sex created a new universe. Back in our universe, the gang is dealing with
the aftermath in our universe. Buffy realizes how the situation she left her
friends and the world in so she returns. The seed was destroyed and magic
disappeared in our universe. Twilight controls Angel who kills Giles. So
yeah, Angel now has gone too far as a character so the writers in the new
season decided to make it seem as if Angel had meant to move everyone
to the new universe and Buffy didn't give him the chance. And to strengthen
it, they have Willow agreeing that Buffy just doesn't listen and you can't get
through to her when she is upset. So blame is shifted onto Buffy cause
she just wouldn't let Angel finish his sentence. This is white washing a
character's actions after the fact and shifting the guilt to their victim.
That just bugs me no end. Once again they blame Buffy. This time they
just didn't kick her out of her own house. They talked trash about her
behind her back.
I wrote this rant about Angel and then found this on i09.
8 Epic Heroes Who Committed Mass Murder
7. Angel
In the Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season Eight comic book series, the consciousness of a new universe called Twilight imbues Angel with Superman-like powers. Twilight convinces Angel that in order to fulfill his destiny and save the world, he must kill as many potential Slayers as possible in a gambit to, essentially, antagonize Buffy into having time-travelling astro-sex with him. Their passion results in the creation of the paradise-like Twilight dimension, and heralds the destruction of the present universe. Angel tries to convince Buffy to stay in Twilight and rule, believing it morally wrong to be an absent God in a reality of his own making, but she declines, opting to rescue the present universe by destroying the "Seed of Wonder", the source of all Earthly magic. Twilight demands that Buffy and Angel finish what they started -- it possesses Angel and kills Giles.
On his own TV show, the question of whether Angel was truly a hero, or merely a very talented victim was one of the series major overarching themes. (He did spend two hundred years of immortality eating rats and riding on submarines, not even considering helping the helpless until it was pointed out to him.) Could the actions of a demon, being naturally evil, be compared to those of human beings, who have more or less a choice in their actions? As a human, Angel was a cruel and violent drunk and becoming a vampire ultimately made him a better man. Though to many, the season eight series and Angel's attempt at Slayer-cide provided the final nail in the coffin of Angel's character/crusade.
Seems I'm not the only one who is a bit ticked off about Angel.