While I will agree with the fact some of the reasons people are convicted of "sex" crimes is bullshit, the registry is valid.
As the vast majority of sexual predators are just that behaviorally motivated toward a certain type of action.
Nowhere did I say they couldn't advance to a position of management...look at Ted Kennedy he became a US Senator. However, I did say they should not be placed in a position of dominion over the same demographic.
If you did something to get on that list, you are stuck with that. Just like the felony conviction means you aren't voting or legally owning a firearm.
College students may be over 18, but at the end of the day many parents are still writing those tuition checks and still have some opinion/input over the institution their child attends. So, would you send your daughter to a preschool managed by a "I did my time" child molester. I'd hope not. So I doubt they would want their daughter attending a class taught by someone of questionable character, because he did his time.
Above all that, the ethics of teachers/instructors having sexual contact with their students is shady at best no matter what the age. I know it happens, but that is bullshit.
You have your opinions, and I respect your right to have them. I simply feel they are misguided on this subject.
As the vast majority of sexual predators are just that behaviorally motivated toward a certain type of action.
I believe that this is false. Could you cite a reference, please?
Nowhere did I say they couldn't advance to a position of management...
Said? No. However, your claim that someone who is a sex offender shouldn't be placed in a position of power over that demographic carries this as an implication.
Look at Ted Kennedy he became a US Senator.
First, you were making a normative claim; normative claims cannot be refuted by pointing out facts. Ought and Is, in other words, just don't go.
Second, Ted Kennedy was not a sex offender. Unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't, it's a really shitty thing to accuse somebody of.
Megan's Law is bullshit. It might have been a good idea at first but what it is now is just awful.
College students may be over 18, but at the end of the day many parents are still writing those tuition checks and still have some opinion/input over the institution their child attends.
Sure they do. I don't see how it's relevant to whether that dude should be allowed to teach political theory to adults.
So, would you send your daughter to a preschool managed by a "I did my time" child molester.
"Child molester" carries connotations that are not relevant to this guy's case. Seventeen-year-olds are not children. Also, since when are we talking about preschool? I know freshmen are immature morons, but that's a bit harsh. And totally fucking irrelevant.
So I doubt they would want their daughter attending a class taught by someone of questionable character, because he did his time.
Yes, because of course ADULT WOMEN need their parents to protect them from some dude who had sex with a 17-year-old several years ago. WTF, Charley?
Above all that, the ethics of teachers/instructors having sexual contact with their students is shady at best no matter what the age
Yes, but - and I feel that I need to point this out again - college students are adults. They get to make their own decisions.
You have your opinions, and I respect your right to have them. I simply feel they are misguided on this subject.
Oh, sure. Nothing here is personal or offended or anything. I'm more surprised by your views than anything.
My issue is he used his position of power as a teacher. He was held to a higher standard, and should have acted accordingly, and kept his pecker in his pants. That is why I don't think he should be teaching. He misused the trust and authority of his position, and shouldn't be given the opportunity to do it again.
That might have been what happened, yes. It also might have been the case that a young teacher made a stupid mistake. I don't know what actually happened; if you do, please say so!
My point is just that. Since we don't know what actually happened seven years ago, we should not be jumping to conclusions about character or risk of recidivism.
I know the situation became a he said/she said situation, pissed off parents were involved etc.
I also know there are a whole hosts of reasons while this person should be kept away from the rest of humanity, but I am not going to put them into a public forum, as formal charges were never filed by his former wife.
The risk of recidivism is pretty irrelevant as you said, most of his students now are legally adults. I can't speak directly for his character other than to say he has always been one of those people that 'never did anything wrong.' Sometimes people do change, but sometimes they don't.
As the vast majority of sexual predators are just that behaviorally motivated toward a certain type of action.
Nowhere did I say they couldn't advance to a position of management...look at Ted Kennedy he became a US Senator. However, I did say they should not be placed in a position of dominion over the same demographic.
The reason the registry exists...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan%27s_Law
If you did something to get on that list, you are stuck with that. Just like the felony conviction means you aren't voting or legally owning a firearm.
College students may be over 18, but at the end of the day many parents are still writing those tuition checks and still have some opinion/input over the institution their child attends. So, would you send your daughter to a preschool managed by a "I did my time" child molester. I'd hope not. So I doubt they would want their daughter attending a class taught by someone of questionable character, because he did his time.
Above all that, the ethics of teachers/instructors having sexual contact with their students is shady at best no matter what the age. I know it happens, but that is bullshit.
You have your opinions, and I respect your right to have them. I simply feel they are misguided on this subject.
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I believe that this is false. Could you cite a reference, please?
Nowhere did I say they couldn't advance to a position of management...
Said? No. However, your claim that someone who is a sex offender shouldn't be placed in a position of power over that demographic carries this as an implication.
Look at Ted Kennedy he became a US Senator.
First, you were making a normative claim; normative claims cannot be refuted by pointing out facts. Ought and Is, in other words, just don't go.
Second, Ted Kennedy was not a sex offender. Unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't, it's a really shitty thing to accuse somebody of.
Megan's Law is bullshit. It might have been a good idea at first but what it is now is just awful.
College students may be over 18, but at the end of the day many parents are still writing those tuition checks and still have some opinion/input over the institution their child attends.
Sure they do. I don't see how it's relevant to whether that dude should be allowed to teach political theory to adults.
So, would you send your daughter to a preschool managed by a "I did my time" child molester.
"Child molester" carries connotations that are not relevant to this guy's case. Seventeen-year-olds are not children. Also, since when are we talking about preschool? I know freshmen are immature morons, but that's a bit harsh. And totally fucking irrelevant.
So I doubt they would want their daughter attending a class taught by someone of questionable character, because he did his time.
Yes, because of course ADULT WOMEN need their parents to protect them from some dude who had sex with a 17-year-old several years ago. WTF, Charley?
Above all that, the ethics of teachers/instructors having sexual contact with their students is shady at best no matter what the age
Yes, but - and I feel that I need to point this out again - college students are adults. They get to make their own decisions.
You have your opinions, and I respect your right to have them. I simply feel they are misguided on this subject.
Oh, sure. Nothing here is personal or offended or anything. I'm more surprised by your views than anything.
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My issue is he used his position of power as a teacher. He was held to a higher standard, and should have acted accordingly, and kept his pecker in his pants. That is why I don't think he should be teaching. He misused the trust and authority of his position, and shouldn't be given the opportunity to do it again.
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My point is just that. Since we don't know what actually happened seven years ago, we should not be jumping to conclusions about character or risk of recidivism.
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I also know there are a whole hosts of reasons while this person should be kept away from the rest of humanity, but I am not going to put them into a public forum, as formal charges were never filed by his former wife.
The risk of recidivism is pretty irrelevant as you said, most of his students now are legally adults. I can't speak directly for his character other than to say he has always been one of those people that 'never did anything wrong.' Sometimes people do change, but sometimes they don't.
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