"Can anyone tell me what's up with feminists calling themselves womyn?"
The origin and implication of "woman" as a derivitive of "man" bothered some ladies, so they decided to make up their own word, free of such implications.
It isn't a _practical_ thing, to be sure, but it made a group of women feel liberated and powerful, so in that sense, it was a success.
Wait, letting people feel better isn't a good enough reason to have a new word?
I mean I agree it's kinda silly to feel like you're being oppressed by a word, but I mean if it makes them feel better to have their own word why does it matter?
I mean womyn is just a word too, why do you care if they want to refer to themselves as such?
Things like this just bother me, they want the new word because they feel oppressed. Although if they change it they're just setting themselves aside, and as I said it's hard to be equal if you try to be different. Actually having the word man in woman, would from a certain angle imply equality would it not?
But things like this annoy me. The native americans want to be treated equal, but they're not willing to give up their tax-exempt status. I'm not saying it's fair. But I wouldnt assimilate the american culture if I felt that, that very culture raped my women and destroyed my land.
But then again, to be fair, I can't speak from personal experience. OBV
Is it equality? If you're talking about the feminists who just don't want to be refered to as from man then it's not any other larger problem. It's changing one letter to make them feel like they're not connected to something in a way that bothers them.
Basically Josh, I think if you can make a large group of people happy in a way that no way inconveniences you then why not do it? Like "Oh No! I have to spell a word with one letter different just because it would make a large amount of people feel better!"
That's all you have to do. Make people happy by changing one word, sorry one letter of a word. I normally find making people happy is a damn lot harder then that.
Yes, if changing one letter made feminists happy, then leave it be...but since when is that all it takes to make anyone, even the most agreeable person, happy? Particularly a largely protest-based minority. There are some things that people will protest just for the sake of protest and the feeling of having the power to make a difference, and this is very much one of them. Not that there's really anything particularly horrible about that...if they want to spell it that way on their own, fine, but it can't be expected that the rest of the world (the majority of the world, if you will) caters to the whims of a select few.
Not that feminists are to be ignored in any sense...but not all of them necessarily feel the need to flex their protest muscle with something so miniscule.
All I'm talking about is changing one letter of the word. I know that obviously it won't in reality fix anything but according to this post it's been made to look like all that's wrong and therefore would be easy to fix.
I'm saying if it was this way then we may as well do it becuase it's not very hard and personally even if it's not going to fix everything I don't see what's wrong with making people happy. Especially when it's so easy to do.
Stop using my name like thatmactimore_August 16 2006, 01:30:35 UTC
What do you know about my respect for people?
I was intending to come to your party and all but couldn't because I was whisked away to Gold River and made to take long hikes and watch hippies dance naked around a fire.
And no, I absolutely refuse to address the real issue here any further than I already have. It's just too exasperating (especially as I've already been subjected to this debate several times before), and I've dealt with enough in the last week and a half.
I'm glad you don't want to talk about the subject at hand anymore. Becuase neither do I really. I just like to argue for the most part. There was too much agreeing on this post.
P.S. I know nothing of your respect for people I just like to assume things. It makes things happen faster.
Anyway, some time we really should meet up - things aren't so lively just now - if only for me to tell you about wild hippie gatherings in the woods, and stuff like that.
The origin and implication of "woman" as a derivitive of "man" bothered some ladies, so they decided to make up their own word, free of such implications.
It isn't a _practical_ thing, to be sure, but it made a group of women feel liberated and powerful, so in that sense, it was a success.
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I mean I agree it's kinda silly to feel like you're being oppressed by a word, but I mean if it makes them feel better to have their own word why does it matter?
I mean womyn is just a word too, why do you care if they want to refer to themselves as such?
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Things like this just bother me, they want the new word because they feel oppressed. Although if they change it they're just setting themselves aside, and as I said it's hard to be equal if you try to be different. Actually having the word man in woman, would from a certain angle imply equality would it not?
But things like this annoy me. The native americans want to be treated equal, but they're not willing to give up their tax-exempt status. I'm not saying it's fair. But I wouldnt assimilate the american culture if I felt that, that very culture raped my women and destroyed my land.
But then again, to be fair, I can't speak from personal experience. OBV
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Is it equality? If you're talking about the feminists who just don't want to be refered to as from man then it's not any other larger problem. It's changing one letter to make them feel like they're not connected to something in a way that bothers them.
Basically Josh, I think if you can make a large group of people happy in a way that no way inconveniences you then why not do it? Like "Oh No! I have to spell a word with one letter different just because it would make a large amount of people feel better!"
That's all you have to do. Make people happy by changing one word, sorry one letter of a word. I normally find making people happy is a damn lot harder then that.
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Not that feminists are to be ignored in any sense...but not all of them necessarily feel the need to flex their protest muscle with something so miniscule.
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I'm saying if it was this way then we may as well do it becuase it's not very hard and personally even if it's not going to fix everything I don't see what's wrong with making people happy. Especially when it's so easy to do.
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If we had talked since school.
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I was intending to come to your party and all but couldn't because I was whisked away to Gold River and made to take long hikes and watch hippies dance naked around a fire.
And no, I absolutely refuse to address the real issue here any further than I already have. It's just too exasperating (especially as I've already been subjected to this debate several times before), and I've dealt with enough in the last week and a half.
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I'm glad you don't want to talk about the subject at hand anymore. Becuase neither do I really. I just like to argue for the most part. There was too much agreeing on this post.
P.S. I know nothing of your respect for people I just like to assume things. It makes things happen faster.
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If I agree with that...
Anyway, some time we really should meet up - things aren't so lively just now - if only for me to tell you about wild hippie gatherings in the woods, and stuff like that.
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Or if that's too soon we'll just see how schedules and such work out.
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