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Dec 12, 2007 12:36

Some of you remember Strikethrough07. Some of you got what it was about. Others didn't. And I don't blame anyone for that ( Read more... )

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yellowsnakepoet December 12 2007, 18:08:53 UTC
Honestly, I think if you are over 18, there's really no reason you should especially be looking to read about minors in sexual situations. Maybe I'm just a jerk or something, but that's how I feel. I do disagree with some of it though.

Thinking Nazis/Nazi uniforms are sexy...ehhhm..kay. I don't really know what to say, but this is your journal and I'm not going to get into it.

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komikbookgeek December 12 2007, 18:17:17 UTC
Who says I want to read about it? I think if a person who is under eighteen wants to write about their sex life, they should be allowed. And what's so magical about 18? When I was 19 and a 17 year old friend was telling me about her sex life, was that wrong?

And it's fine not to know what to say. As I said - it's weird. But who is targeted next? People who get off on a little (or more) slap and tickle? People do re-enacting of history stuff? Let me tell you, those are some weird folk. Cool folk, I think, but odd.

They are targeting people, right now, who make others uncomfortable. Fandom first. Then people who think that people under the age of 18 have a right to talk about sex, to write about sex. Then people interested (for whatever reason) in the Third Reich. It's ok to target them. And they will. And other's that it's ok to target, until anyone could be a target. That's how this works.

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yellowsnakepoet December 12 2007, 18:23:07 UTC
18 is the legal age of consent. Someone over 18 cannot have a sexual relationship with someone under 18--that's the law. By the same token, someone over 18 should not be getting off on stuff written about someone under 18. Technically if said person acted on those feelings, they'd be committing statutory rape. So that's a pretty clear cut thing.

I realize some have been unfairly targeted, but I'm not going to get into a thing about it. I think the reason Nazi stuff is questionable is because it is bigotry, and bigotry is generally frowned upon. I don't think it's sexy for someone to put on a white sheet and pretend to be a klansman (I'm black, duh). Nor do I think it's sexy for someone to dress up as a Nazi--someone whose goal is to kill people.

I dunno really, but I understand you're upset, so I sympathize. That's all I can do, really. I won't bring my personal feelings towards some of what you said into it.

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komikbookgeek December 12 2007, 18:39:13 UTC
Actually - that's not true. In Ohio, it is not illegal for a person aged 14 to have sex with someone up to the age of 19. 15 and 20, 16 and 21, 17 and 22. In some countries the AOC is set at 14 - you can, at 14 have sex with whomever you want. It's not a clear cut thing. Not at all.

And truly? I wouldn't find it sexy to have some dolt parading up and down my street in full SS uniform. In my bedroom, as part of an S&M thing, oh yeah. That works. There isn't much difference in that and the "bad cop" games people play.

And it's NOT JUST SEX. I wrote papers at uni about some of the SS - why? Because they were effed up in the head. But why were they? What does it take to make a Hitler? A Heydrich? An Eichmann? A Mengele? An Eva Bruan? A Magda Goebbels? HOW did these people get that way? And understanding that, how can they be fixed? How can we stop people from becoming this damaged? I'll be damned, dead, and buried before someone will tell me that -that- interest is wrong.

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yellowsnakepoet December 12 2007, 18:58:46 UTC
There is nothing wrong with wondering how a sociopath became a sociopath, but thinking people who kill other people because of what they are are sexy is...ok then.

The legal age in much of the U.S. is 18. That's just how it is. People over 18 cannot have sex with people under 18 or they end up in jail. Maybe it sucks for some people, but that's how it is. I honestly prefer not to think about that kind of thing anyway. And this is the U.S., not "some countries." I follow the laws of my own country, not some other country.

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komikbookgeek December 12 2007, 20:48:38 UTC
But I'm not thinking people who kill others are sexy. I think the uniform is. I also think the Marine Corps uniform is drop dead sexy. It's about the clothing, not the person. Tartish, but true. Oh, and only one person on that list is a sociopath, one is possible, the others...they aren't. They are other things, but not sociopaths. But that's a huge other discussion.

And actually, the legal age is 17, but most states allow have "Romeo and Juliet" clauses - if people are close to the same age and in a relationship, they aren't punished. And if you follow laws from your country, it's not just to make someone from another country follow ours. Never mind that what they have banned isn't all illegal anyway.

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cstuck December 14 2007, 12:58:13 UTC
It's just some cognitive separation, making the object and what it might symbolize into two separate things. People do it all the time and think nothing of it. Even you probably do ( ... )

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cstuck December 14 2007, 13:07:14 UTC
And yeah, looking over your interests, I realize the steak and Mel Gibson examples may be bad ones. Oh well.

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