happy halloween!

Oct 31, 2006 20:15

so after my insane scrooge like anti-halloween entry, i was listening to eric and kathy on the radio this morning and they had this contests where contestants told their scary stories to win a prize. the winning story was this. it's true and freaked me out, so hopefully you will get a scare too! enjoy! it's not word for word, so please forgive me. ( Read more... )

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boltano_black October 31 2006, 22:13:01 UTC
It sounds like he was suffering from schizophrenia.

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niubutterfly82 November 1 2006, 00:17:45 UTC
Or he really saw something. Everyone has the ability to be psychic (whether you [you as in anyone] believe it or not) but children's abilities are more powerful than most adults- since adults close their minds to things.

Anyways, Happy Halloween to boltano black and kohtotherscue!!!

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boltano_black November 1 2006, 01:00:03 UTC
Everyone has psychic abilities? It's a funny thing then that no one's picked up the million dollar reward that JREF offers, for proving to have even a modicum of psychic powers. Since if anyone can be psychic, you'd think someone strapped for cash would have stepped up by now and taken that easy money, right?
No one has.
So whether you, (the rhetorial 'you'), want to believe it or not, it's far more likely that the poor kid was suffering from a delusional perceptual schema.

If you want to believe in ghosts, though, this is certainly the day for it. So have a blast, and Happy Hallowed Eve.

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niubutterfly82 November 1 2006, 01:26:14 UTC
People who have tuned into their psychic abilities are not the ones that desire to win the lottery. Some people that are psyhcic (that do want money) feel that using those powers for something like that is wrong. How do you know that the people that have won the lotteries weren't psychic? Just because none have gone for the mega-huge-super-fantastic sized ones doesn't mean phsycics have never won. And to add to it, one's psychic abilites take years upon years to develp- and most highly skilled phsycics can't control what they "see" or don't "see"- it's all about what they're supposed to see.

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boltano_black November 1 2006, 01:47:20 UTC
It's a good thing every single psychic out there is so altruistic. Because otherwise the world would have proof that psychic phenomena are real. And that would just be awful.
Out of curiosity, though, do you have any way to explain psychic phenomena that would be falsifiable and quantifiable?
Take your time. No one else has been able to do that, so you would be the first.

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niubutterfly82 November 1 2006, 01:48:20 UTC
I guess there is no way to do so with so many close minded jerks in the world.

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boltano_black November 1 2006, 01:51:32 UTC
Ha, big surprise, the person with no proof is the first to hurl an insult during what was before this point a reasoned discourse.

You've really proven my point.

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niubutterfly82 November 1 2006, 01:56:36 UTC
Yeah, because I've typed every single thing I have as proof righ here for you- sure you really know.
You started with the asshole comments and it's all because someone challenged your opinions.

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boltano_black November 1 2006, 01:58:43 UTC
You merely inferred they were assholic, which is unfair to assume, which underlines your established propensity towards assumption and lack of proof. This isn't an informed discussion worth having. Go on believing in whatever you want, as long as you realize that it's relegated to a tiny section of the book store entitled "New Age."

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niubutterfly82 November 1 2006, 01:39:54 UTC
And to clarify- I said everyone has the ability to become psychic- meaning you have to develop the skills involved with it.
Also, why would a psychic person flaunt their abilities in front of people (by getting the million dollar reward) that would probably laugh in their face and call them phony- even if they did win.

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boltano_black November 1 2006, 01:50:48 UTC
Well, it isn't just a challenge, it's a test. It has to be quantifiable. Only people who don't follow the scientific method of thought, or are excessively close-minded, would laugh at them. Trust me, if they managed to win the prize, I, and other people of reason, would accept it fully, because it would prove that psychic phenomena are scientifically supported, which has to be the case since it requires an interaction with physical phenomena, thus being able to be actualized in reality. But no one has even come close. Because it's all, sadly, wishful thinking, and people who prey on peoples' hopes that there really are such things as precognition.

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niubutterfly82 November 1 2006, 01:53:23 UTC
How do you prove something that you cannot see or that is not full proof? Even highly abled psychics can be wrong- and unfortunatly one wrong answer would make any fence sitter believe they are fake.

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boltano_black November 1 2006, 01:55:39 UTC
Oh, so are we going to discuss this rhetorically again, without name-calling? Ok. I'll tell you how someone would do that. Even metaphysical matters, if they have an impact on the physical world, will be quantifiable, meaning, their effect on nature can be measured. We can't see gravity, but we have scientifically ascertained it, for instance. Now, if highly abled psychics can use their gifts to perceive or alter the physical realm, such affects will be able to be tested and proved. Since no one has been able to successfully portray such an impact or power, any claims to the contrary are highly suspicious.

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niubutterfly82 November 1 2006, 01:59:28 UTC
There are many psychics who use their abilities every day in many ways (ie. helping solve murder cases)- but they get over looked by scientists ask for proof- and although a person may have helped solve a crime- it gets ruled a lucky guess. And also because there are so many fake psychics out there they help put the real ones in a spot where no one- no matter the amount of proof- will ever believe.

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boltano_black November 1 2006, 01:56:50 UTC
But the real question would be, why believe in something that has no proof?

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niubutterfly82 November 1 2006, 02:00:55 UTC
For me there has been proof- many times over. Even my fiance who never believed in it, now believes because of the proof I've given him. But that has no effect on anybody except us or persons involved.

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