Preview of T-ara posts to come

Jul 08, 2012 10:42

Never got around to answering arbitrary_greay's comment over on the snsd_ffa Gangkiz thread regarding the T-ara concept and high production values. "T-ara concept" is the subject of one of my 500 future T-ara posts that are in the planning stage. But in brief, the T-ara concept can be summarized, "Words that rhyme, words that repeat, raps that fit sing-song, any rapper ( Read more... )

orange caramel, after school, t-ara, miss a, crayon pop

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sub_divided July 11 2012, 22:55:11 UTC
I love (the cut version of) "Day by Day" so much. Their wispy vocals as Hyomin and new-member Dani (who is 14...) frolic in the fields with doves and bunnies; those same whispy "doo doo doos" as Jiyeon chases down and kills faceless male gangsters in corridors. AWESOME.

Also is it just me, or are there a lot of twins in Kpop? Jiyeon and her twin sister in 5dolls; DBSK's Junsu and his brother with a cameo in Tallentelegra; BAP's Bang Yong Guk's older twin brother who fronts for a rock band; SNSD's Jessica and F(x)'s Krystal who aren't technically twins but are reportedly very close. And then there's Boyfriend and Crayon Pop, newer groups with intact sets of twins aha. I wonder if this is something the entertainment companies look for, since groups score points with fans when the members are "close" (and "actual twins" is less dysfunctional than "codependent as *if* they were twins").

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koganbot July 12 2012, 03:38:55 UTC
Dani may be only 14, but she has special powers (though so far they don't include performing with the group).

To further foil my T-ara Voice Recognition Project, the vid for the dance ver. keeps cutting to various members sitting in a chair and lipsyncing each other's lines.

You mean Hwayoung, not Jiyeon (as the one whose twin sis is in 5dolls/Co-Ed School).

Jiyeon's hair is back to black.

Dara's brother is in MBLAQ, right? Not that they're twins.

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sub_divided July 12 2012, 23:29:16 UTC
Yeah, Thunder was a last-minute addition to MBLAQ after the original choice dropped out right before they debuted. (I know this because my ex-roommate is a big big MBLAQ and Thunder fan.)

Day by Day dance ver. video is hilarious. If I was going to pick the very last T-ara song to give the constant-black-and-white-costume-changes-and-flashing-lights treatment, it would be this one. "Day by Day" is a relaxing song, or at least it sounds relaxing when you aren't paying close attention to the lyrics. I can't tell if it's laziness or if the director is screwing with us.

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koganbot July 13 2012, 05:35:30 UTC
Apparently T-ara videomakers rarely let the nature of the song curtail their imaginations. I won't say it won't always work, to bring heavy concepts to light music.

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Crayon Pop koganbot July 24 2012, 16:51:26 UTC


Crayon Pop seem like naturally good dancers who've been given very simple dance moves. If they were American, I would assume on the basis of how this looks that they were aimed at the Disney or Nickelodeon audience. But I realize that in Korea that could be a misreading (yet "young audience" might well explain the simplicity of the dance moves: something for the tykes to imitate with ease).

Speaking of cultural misreadings, when I first heard Crayon Pop, without seeing them, I thought, "Hmmm, sounds like indie dance pop," that is, a detached, knowing version of cute. Not that teenyboppers and their mentors can't purvey a detached, knowing version of cute. But really, I wouldn't have been surprised to see bohos in their mid 20s.

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Re: Crayon Pop davidfrazer August 26 2012, 17:41:13 UTC
For what it's worth, all the members of Crayon Pop are over twenty, so they're young women posing as teenyboppers. The oldest, Gun Mi, was born in 1988, so she's already considered twenty-five under the Korean age system (where you're one year old at birth and, IIRC, turn a year older every New Year). And lead vocal Way went/goes to Seoul Art College, which sounds as if it ought to be pretty boho. :)

So, yeah, I'm thinking they might be boho hipsters playing at being idols with a detached, knowing version of cute, or at least perhaps their managers are playing at making idol pop with a detached, knowing version of cute.

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Re: Crayon Pop koganbot August 26 2012, 20:07:00 UTC
Well, I think one of my hypotheses here is that in Korea to dress and dance and sound like that doesn't necessarily signify as "teenybopper," and it's assumed that young and even not so young adults are part of the audience. Same would apply to "Girl's Day." A corollary hypothesis is that the U.S. is relatively rare in assuming that bubblegum is just for kids. (I guess I could call that the Trix Hypothesis.)

An alternate hypothesis is that they are understood to be going young and teenybopper in look but in K-pop that's a frequent move among idol performers and it doesn't lose you your late-teen and adult audience. This would be the Orange Caramel Hypothesis. (I still haven't quite processed Orange Caramel for being these leggy model types who incongruously dressed like they'd stepped out of a picture book for the tykes while playing trot rhythms. And then in After School they revert to behaving like Pussycat Dolls. Covering all the bases, I guess; their clothing has grown up a bit since they started ( ... )

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Re: Crayon Pop davidfrazer August 30 2012, 18:02:11 UTC
Meanwhile allkpop breathlessly reports "Crayon Pop reveal they aren’t afraid to confront agency". The members confronted their manager to complain about how the company was treating them...and it just happens that the incident was witnessed by a television crew making a show called "Diary of Crayon Pop" for MBC Music. It sounds to me rather as if the show's producers staged the confrontation to attract attention, since injecting a dose of controversy probably helps if you're trying to promote a reality show about an obscure rookie idol group. And of course the T-ara affair has made the behaviour of entertainment companies a topical issue in Korea.

Speaking of which, the allkpop article is full of user comments saying that the Crayon Pop members are lazy and ungrateful and should work harder if they want to become famous, etc, etc. Kim Kwang Soo would heartily agree...

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Re: Crayon Pop koganbot August 30 2012, 19:09:25 UTC
Ha! When I initially saw the sentence "Crayon Pop reveal they aren't afraid to confront agency," I interpreted the word "agency" in the cultural-studies sense. So I didn't think "talent agency" but rather (Merriam-Webster def'n 2): "the capacity, condition, or state of acting or of exerting power," as in "K-pop performers are not simply puppets, and K-pop fans are not passive receptacles, but rather exhibit a certain amount of agency (twisted little fucks though they be)." So I took the sentence to be saying that Crayon Pop were confronting the issue of agency. Which maybe they are.

I don't assume the show's producers had to stage the confrontation (though that's not impossible). A simpler explanation is that Chrome Entertainment (previously unknown to me) chose the members of Crayon Pop for demonstrating a certain amount of fire, and MBC has an eye for drama.

In November 2001, in the two weeks before Pink's Missundaztood was released, I was inundated with promo copy from Arista detailing all of the confrontations she'd had with ( ... )

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Re: Crayon Pop koganbot August 26 2012, 20:33:01 UTC
By the way, here's some actual Korean indie dance pop, though it's not teenybopper. Pretty good. Could use a post of its own, but I won't have time today.

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Re: Crayon Pop davidfrazer August 26 2012, 21:26:10 UTC
Oh, Neon Bunny! I bought Seoulight on iTunes, but it's disappeared from the UK iTunes store, so I don't expect Happy Ending to turn up any time soon.

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