6th Short - [Voice] + [Action]

May 12, 2011 21:08

[Oswald is lounging outside Community Building six and lost in thought. A bit bored, as well. That's why he flips open his journal for a general query.]

So... That experiment we had a couple weeks ago got me thinkin'. How many of you folks actually have kids? Either in here or back home. And would you want 'm to be here ( Read more... )

poor papa, his filters suck, the mechanical cow

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 13 2011, 23:35:08 UTC
[Robert makes a considering noise. It's... still a little weird to think that not all worlds work the same way, but he's getting more used to the idea now, and is curious to learn about different ones.]

Well, there are essentially two major levels of government - the planetwide global Council, which elects a single representative for each major continent and Oceania - that is, there are eight Council members on the global Council - and the municipal Councils, which work within the context of each city. Generally, the two levels of government have correspondance with each other, though municipal governments are more likely to contact each other than the global Council.

It is a democractic system; the ability to make one's own decisions is a strongly-emphasized part of Terran ethical and humanitarian codes. [His voice holds an almost-pedantic hint of pride, here.] Autonomy of choice, so to speak.

[Oswald's words do make Robert pause for a moment.] Ah, no, he is not. Not that it matters at all to me; his mind is the most important part of him, after all, and it is the part that I cherish and love above all else... Not to say that the rest of him is of no concern, but the part that really defines him for who he is is his mind. [This is the sound of a scientist in love, Oswald.]

... I certainly hope his father will eventually learn to see things that way, but the world that my partner and his family comes from is one where there are many barbaric humans that see them as undeserving of basic sapient rights - there are a few that accepted them, apparently, but overall the vast majority of humans they interacted with were foolish and violent towards them. [Luckily that usually isn't the case in Luceti.]

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[Voice] kingofwaste May 14 2011, 12:34:56 UTC
[You lost Oswald at "Oceania", man. It all just went way over his head.] ... Wow. That sounds... complicated. But, uh, making one's own decisions is good! Definitely.

[A guy who is in love with another guy who is not human. ... Huh. It's a new concept for Oswald, but not one he's opposed to. He's just very used to the "boy meets girl, they fall in love and live happily ever after" pattern that Disney followed.]

That doesn't sound like the kinda world I'd wanna live in. Guess that means it's a good thing you two were sent to Luceti, right? And the family, too! Now you can all live here without bein' pestered by those weird humans from their world. I'll be rooting for ya, too! [Another thing that Disney movies taught him is that love can transcend all boundaries and overcome all obstacles. He's a rabbit who's in love with a cat, after all!]

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 14 2011, 19:02:40 UTC
And you say you are a king? What sort of political stance do you have, with your political system?

[Robert is so used to the idea being comfortably acceptable that he's been honestly surprised to find homophobic or other forms of discrimination here. But he isn't entirely unused to the idea, now... Still, it's good that Oswald is accepting. It probably helps that, as a cartoon character, he's not aware of many of the societal taboos or other such things generally associated with it...]

It would not be the kind of world I would wish to live in, either. All sapients have rights under the Terran penal codes, and to do less than that is to systemically deny the inherent personhood of them...

... Though, I see that you yourself are a non-human sapient... a sort of Leporid, perhaps? I hope that your world treats those of your species well.

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[Voice] kingofwaste May 15 2011, 12:46:54 UTC
Political stance? Uhhhh... I rule. People come to me askin' for things, and then I make sure they get those things. And when there's a festival, I get to light the fireworks and stuff. ... And when there's trouble, people expect me to solve it, I guess. [He used to be able to solve trouble, anyway. Sadly, the Thinner Disaster and the Shadow Blot were too big a messes for him to handle. He'd tried to solve that, only to fail miserably.]

Leporid? I dunno what that is. I'm a rabbit! A lucky one, at that. And yeah, we get treated pretty nicely! The benefit of bein' a cartoon character is that all the species are capable of living in harmony if they want.

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 16 2011, 00:55:19 UTC
So your government uses a fairly direct method... is it a very small populace, then, for you to be able to directly interact with most of the residents?

Leporids are species belonging to the Leporidae family, which includes rabbits and hares...

[The next part throws Robert off somewhat.] ... Wait a moment. You are a... cartoon rabbit?

... As in, you are a living cartoon? If I may ask, are you some sort of non-organic sapient? [Because the idea of an actual cartoon being a biological organism is just... well. It's almost as crazy as the idea of an anthropomorphic country.]

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[Voice] kingofwaste May 16 2011, 11:40:09 UTC
Well... We started off with only a few people. Then the population kept growin' for a while. But Wasteland doesn't have that many residents, and some of 'm have their own leaders who're like representatives. Like... the Gremlins have a mayor in their village. I'd still talk to 'm when I'd see 'm- they're all very nice guys. But if they'd need somethin' done in the village, they'd send the mayor to ask me. Or he'd just use the telephone. Whichever worked.

Living cartoon? That's a weird thing to ask. All cartoons are alive, just not the same as humans or... non-cartoon animals. And we're definitely not organic. We're made up out of paint and ink.

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 16 2011, 22:14:12 UTC
Ah... that is somewhat like the municipal governments of Terra, then. Representatives for each section of the populace, so to speak.

... [Sorry, Oswald. Robert's going to bluescreen a little bit at that part.]

... Cartoons in your world are alive... [Incredulously, and mostly to himself:] W-Well, alright, I suppose that would be fairly self-evident, since I am speaking to you...

But. I can assure you fairly safely that cartoons in my own multiverse are not alive, by any standard definition...

... Are all things that are typed, drawn or written in your world alive, then, or is it restricted to those made of paint and ink? And... how do you sustain your form, if you are made of those components? [He has a million questions about Oswald's biology forming in the back of his completely-skeptical mind: What's his body temperature? How does he feed, if he does at all? What about respiration? Are his organs made of paint and ink, too? And he'll probably want to ask them all if given the opportunity, but this is really knocking him for a loop.]

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[Voice] kingofwaste May 17 2011, 17:08:00 UTC
Oh, uhhh... We keep our form because we were drawn to keep our form, I guess. It's how we were designed. I mean, some of us can stretch our bodies for comedy purposes and if we get hit by thinner, we melt. But in the end it's all down to the design again.

In Wasteland, it's really anything that was drawn that's alive. Sometimes even things like flowers and telephones. It's just that we can't draw things and make 'm lively. The only living cartoon characters in Wasteland are the ones who were drawn by humans in the Disney studio and then forgotten. Living cartoon characters outside Wasteland are the ones that're still popular.

Geddit?

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 17 2011, 23:47:37 UTC
[Sort of a circular logic here, but Robert tries to keep an open-ish mind. Kinda.]

So Wasteland is a sort of... repository for those who were drawn by this particular studio [- which the mun figures Robert doesn't recognize -] and then somehow entered obsolescence...? Is there some property that this studio has that no other studio does, when it creates drawings?

I am afraid that this concept is... difficult. I must confess, I never thought it even remotely possible that what was a drawing in one world could be an organism in its own right in another... And those two worlds are directly related, in your case, correct? Did humans often interact with you there?

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[Voice] kingofwaste May 18 2011, 19:39:48 UTC
... Property? Like what?

Humans never interacted with us. I don't think they even know Wasteland exists. Them knowin' about us would kinda defeat the point, because you can't be forgotten if people know where you've gone. I knew about them, of course. But not the other way 'round.

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 18 2011, 23:39:14 UTC
I would not know... some sort of specific material they use that would create organic drawings? Or... something else? [The word "magic" does not come to mind, yet.]

... And I suppose that makes sense. But... how does one forget a cartoon entirely? Is there a certain threshold of popularity before one becomes "forgotten"? I am certain information about you would still exist in databases and the like...

[This is such a jarring conversation.]

... I apologize for being so... engrossed in this, but your biology seems... well, beyond fascinating...

... Would you know if you happen to have organ systems? [Would a cartoon even need organ systems?]

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[Voice] kingofwaste May 20 2011, 10:57:06 UTC
[...] Well uh... I didn't make the rules. I don't understand 'm either. I just have to live by 'm. Once nobody really watches your cartoons anymore, you become forgotten. That's really all I know.

As for organs, it depends on the context. If there's a visual gag involvin' organs, like someone rippin' a character's heart out of their chest or their brain fallin' asleep or whatever, then sure. But we don't really need organs like humans do. The popular toons still have their own hearts and those are pretty important, but they're... symbolical, ya know?

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 20 2011, 16:45:15 UTC
It seems like an arbitrary construct, but I hope that if you wish to be recognized, that somebody will help that happen again. [Robert does not want to be in the public eye. Even if he's a celebrity in terms of Terran standards, he's not a very active one, preferring to stay far out of the public eye.

Okay, the organs thing is... admittedly both kind of disturbing and fascinating all at once. But it does simultaneously answer some questions.] So you technically do not need to respire or eat, then, unless a scene would call for it I suppose...

... Well. That must certainly be an interesting existence.

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[Voice] kingofwaste May 20 2011, 18:22:13 UTC
Ya really think it's interesting? Well, that just goes to show that us toons are amazing, fascinating and incredible. I just wish there were more of us in Luceti. I've never been surrounded by humans- and there sure are a lot of you all.

And ya know what? If you're interested in seein' some of my old cartoons, you can always come over to my apartment! I got a projector and a DVD collection from that Catherine guy. I've got other Disney stuff too!

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 20 2011, 18:32:27 UTC
As an astrobiologist, I find all forms of life extremely interesting - and yours is a form of life that I have never seen or even thought possible until now, so it is especially true in your case.

[It must be strange to be the only cartoon in a world of humans, yes. Robert ponders that for a second.] There are a disproportionate amount of hominids here... I wonder if that might be something deliberate?

And I may very well have to take you up on that offer... I do not think that I have ever seen them, but of course I am relatively far in the future by the perspective of most people here. [Don't worry, Oswald, Robert didn't forget you on purpose! ... If it's any consolation, he doesn't recognize Mickey Mouse, either.]

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[Voice] kingofwaste May 20 2011, 19:49:52 UTC
Somethin' deliberate, huh? Maybe it's so that the other toons don't steal my shine. But, hey, I do know of one other cartoon character here! My mechanical cow buddy arrived, just now. He doesn't have wings like everyone else. I guess it's because he's more of a pet instead of an anthropomorphic cow.

Let me know when you stop by, okay? I'll set everything up for ya.

[He pauses for a moment, then can't help but ask.] ... So how much fancy technology does your future have?

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