Short gown evidence
(cross posted from my main blog: http://www.kimiko1.com/blog/?p=272)
I was asked about Short Gowns in the Tudor period, and asked what sort of documentation I had for them. I've actually collected a few images in a folder, and had plans on writing up about them at some point, and sharing what I had then. I've yet to do so, and won't really have time until after the elevation happens. However, I can post here what I posted to the person who asked, just so you all know what my basis is (and it is more than 3 images, and even includes some period commentary, but I'd have to look up those words exactly - in the future.
Here's what I wrote in reply:
I've not had the time to upload all the images I've collected over the years of this style, which after the ceremony I will definitely have to do. Most early period images are not going to show anything below the waist, which leaves out a lot of details. So I've turned to both effigies and illuminations, which show more of them than I had realized.
But here are a few more samples than the tapestry one I already shared.
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/TudorWomen/1510/LouisXIIMaryD5.html
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/TudorWomen/1510/3Graces.html
http://www.tudoreffigies.co.uk/browse/view.asp?id=95
Note the very bottom image and the text Jane put in. "The top layer (the gown) is shorter than the under layer (the kirtle). This was described as characteristic of Englishwomen's dress by the Venetian ambassador in 1554 (quoted in Carter, A [1984] “Mary Tudor’s Wardrobe” in Costume, 18, 20)."
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/TudorWomen/1500/H8StNicholasMaidens.html
And yes, I am seeing that most folks commenting so far on the laurel gown is leaning towards the short gown style.
I was asked about Short Gowns in the Tudor period, and asked what sort of documentation I had for them. I've actually collected a few images in a folder, and had plans on writing up about them at some point, and sharing what I had then. I've yet to do so, and won't really have time until after the elevation happens. However, I can post here what I posted to the person who asked, just so you all know what my basis is (and it is more than 3 images, and even includes some period commentary, but I'd have to look up those words exactly - in the future.
Here's what I wrote in reply:
I've not had the time to upload all the images I've collected over the years of this style, which after the ceremony I will definitely have to do. Most early period images are not going to show anything below the waist, which leaves out a lot of details. So I've turned to both effigies and illuminations, which show more of them than I had realized.
But here are a few more samples than the tapestry one I already shared.
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/TudorWomen/1510/LouisXIIMaryD5.html
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/TudorWomen/1510/3Graces.html
http://www.tudoreffigies.co.uk/browse/view.asp?id=95
Note the very bottom image and the text Jane put in. "The top layer (the gown) is shorter than the under layer (the kirtle). This was described as characteristic of Englishwomen's dress by the Venetian ambassador in 1554 (quoted in Carter, A [1984] “Mary Tudor’s Wardrobe” in Costume, 18, 20)."
http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/TudorWomen/1500/H8StNicholasMaidens.html
And yes, I am seeing that most folks commenting so far on the laurel gown is leaning towards the short gown style.