Double take?
I was just going through images on my own web site, when I noticed something that hadn't really caught my eye before.
This image: http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1500/MarieMagdaleny.html
and this image: http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1500/MargaretTudorUnkn2.html
It almost looks like they are wearing the same gown, doesn't it?
What is the same or very similar:
The unusual fabric that is diamonds within diamonds (would love to know how that was created).
The way the upper chest is cut with the edge jewels and circular brooch? in the middle.
The French hood has pearl front billiment, and rectangular gold billiment pieces in back - but hard to tell from the two different angles.
The foresleeves are both pleated and similar in color.
The hair color is very similar. So is the style, but that's the common hair style of the time period.
What is different:
The turn back sleeve colors are different.
The necklace is different, although the black string thing is present in both.
The number of rings on her fingers, although in one I admit it is too small to tell if she is even wearing rings.
I am now wondering if this is the same sitter, possibly done by the same artist workshop? Maybe they were done from two different people working from different angles?
Hmmm.... thoughts folks?
btw, I can definitely prove that the Flemish had blackwork embroidery among their folks, as strongly noted in this image, from Flanders, c. 1525-40. Color but smaller version here. This is way more than I am interested in doing, but it is nice to see. So far, nothing on French women and blackwork, but then every portrait I have of a French woman, you don't see much, if anything of their undergarments. I did find one woman wearing what might be gold lace but it is very bold. I'll check my illuminations later.
This image: http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1500/MarieMagdaleny.html
and this image: http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1500/MargaretTudorUnkn2.html
It almost looks like they are wearing the same gown, doesn't it?
What is the same or very similar:
The unusual fabric that is diamonds within diamonds (would love to know how that was created).
The way the upper chest is cut with the edge jewels and circular brooch? in the middle.
The French hood has pearl front billiment, and rectangular gold billiment pieces in back - but hard to tell from the two different angles.
The foresleeves are both pleated and similar in color.
The hair color is very similar. So is the style, but that's the common hair style of the time period.
What is different:
The turn back sleeve colors are different.
The necklace is different, although the black string thing is present in both.
The number of rings on her fingers, although in one I admit it is too small to tell if she is even wearing rings.
I am now wondering if this is the same sitter, possibly done by the same artist workshop? Maybe they were done from two different people working from different angles?
Hmmm.... thoughts folks?
btw, I can definitely prove that the Flemish had blackwork embroidery among their folks, as strongly noted in this image, from Flanders, c. 1525-40. Color but smaller version here. This is way more than I am interested in doing, but it is nice to see. So far, nothing on French women and blackwork, but then every portrait I have of a French woman, you don't see much, if anything of their undergarments. I did find one woman wearing what might be gold lace but it is very bold. I'll check my illuminations later.