Arguing... again (at least with someone different this time)

[kimberly_t]

Hrrgggghh. I spent entirely too long today arguing with a senior coworker who insisted that gays are unnatural, perverted and sinful and that he doesn’t want them anywhere near him (though he did concede that what they did in the privacy of their own homes was their business)--but refused to admit that he’s homophobic

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[greenbaron]

As a capitalist, I also read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged and my hawkishness was called into question as I read her novel, though I am now conflicted, but I feel I should go there at least once, due to my prior support. Also, after John Paul II died I quit going to Mass and relaized how dead my faith was. I don't even buy into that spirtual crap and recognize Jesus as a convicted felon, a fraud, and an intolerant person as his times would dictate.

As for your Chief, he does not seem to suffer form solidarity thankfully. I do wonder about some Conscientious Objectors as why they are even an issue in a volunteer Army, but that is another story. I do admit that I am biased about critics of America and tend to favor those arguments I agree with, while discarding cranks like Michael Moore (i often joke about how he'd perfom on a physical training test) or cult leader Noam Chomksy.

I think I impressed him ever-so-slightly when I started talking about how Kant and Mill proved there was a logic to the basic ethical system that every culture has to have (1. Don’t kill each other, 2. Don’t hurt each other, 3. Don’t lie to each other, and 4. Don’t steal from each other. And that those ethics, or morals, have to be present in every culture or religion or it simply doesn’t survive.)

These are good arguments as it also shows a certain absolutism that some uber-modernists wish to exile. I don't care much for Kant, but I like Mill and Locke, and especially Adam Smith.