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[kick_em_out]

I don't want to sound like an asshole, nor do I want to be pessemistic. I like Senator Clinton, I think she'd be a fine president. I bear no ill will toward her or any of her supporters. But if you really think that this continuation that will now likely last until August will do anything other than help John McCain, I've a bridge to sell you.

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When this whole maddness started, I really didn't have a canidate either way. I mean, I liked alot of the "lesser" canidates, like Biden and Kucinich for various reasons, one of which being that they wouldn't win...but between the three frontrunners, I was undecided. Over the time, I grew to strongly dislike Obama versus Clinton. It's gotten to the point where I really am not sure if I could vote for Obama at this point. It's not to the "OMG I HATE HIM!" couldn't vote for him, but depending on who his VP is (there is at least one person who, if he was made VP, I would probably not vote for that tiicket.)

I don't think this is totally bad for the party. It's potentially getting more people involved. It's actually made Obama talk about issues as opposed to just making sunshine come out of his butt. That was probably the biggest issue with him originally...he was all about talking about hope and change but never explained what things he wanted to change, how to acomplish that change, or what his platform was aside from "war bad." I still have apprehensions as to what he'd be able to do in office and if he'd be able to do enough change to get a second term in 2012 and stop Mike Huckabee from becoming President.

I agree that in Michigan Obama wasn't on the ballot, but he (and all the other canidates) were in Florida. I'm going to have to disagree with you on Florida and Michigan. Yes, they fucked up ;however, I think the bigger fuckup was not punishing the states by maybe taking away some of thier delegates (what the Republicans did...did I just praise the Republicans?) as opposed to Howard Dean's stratagy. It would have made all of this drama of whether or not they should be counted go away.

It actually is a fairly decent problem with the party. I'm disgusted at Howard Dean honestly thinking about telling a large number of Democrats or even just Americans, that they potentially don't get a say in who thier party's nominee is. Isn't this the party that in November and December 2000 pleaded to have every vote count? Isn't this the party who has memembers who still believe Bush wasn't elected because, among other things, they feel that every vote didn't count??? Even making I know of Democrats who are honestly planning on bolting the party if those two states aren't represented in Denver...and they, like you, don't seem to be favoring either canidate...and they don't live in either Florida or Michigan.

Finally...I really don't believe that McCain is the second coming of Bush, but after everything that has happened to this country...from the Walter Reed scandel to "we don't need to get Bin Ladin" to Abu Grahib to gas prices to talk of this being worse than the Great Depression...if the Democrats (even with this infighting) don't win, something is seriously wrong with this country.