Hey Kiah, you mentioned the "science" of astrology specifically. Astrology is not strictly speaking a science since it doesn't follow scientific method, yeild empirically justified or arguably even justifiable results.
People who consider themselves serious astrologers don't think much of the zodiac based articles in the paper.
Even those people who try to take as many factors as they can into consideration virtually never account for the change in the stars over time. For instance the point across the sky where various constelations are at present don't coincide with where they would have been two thousand years ago when the basic tenets of astrology where put together. Modern day practitioners for whatever reason don't seem to take this into account and so any predictions they make are made based on a sky that doesn't represent our own.
Sometimes astrologers try to give scientific backing to their theories by claiming that the gravitational or electromagnetic fields of the planets or stars have real effects on our personalities. What they don't take into consideration is that a parked car six feet away from you has a greater gravitational pull than does the massive planet saturn. Or that a a low-rad television set has far more electromagnetic radiation than the entire constallation virgo. Astrologers don't seem interested in these things though.
One interesting idea put forth by Tycho Brahe was that the universe works in some fundamental way and by studying the universe on a grand scale (the stars) we could gain insight into our own lives. This may be true but we simply don't have any reliable way to translate information from one to the other.
Some astrologers claim astrology to be a spiritual discipline and as such the benefit can only be measured in terms of the happiness it gives the practitioner. This I must refute since wouldn't happiness stemming from a more thorough and genuine understanding of the world around us be more valuable than one gifted out of our ignorance?
The saving grace of astrology as I understand it is that it causes people who might not otherwise be introspective a chance to examine themselves and their lives. The benefit from this should be obvious although I don't think that it represents any kind of ideal way to look into the self.
Well ki, that augta give you something to chew on :P. Later man.
Bryan, omg!! Beautiful position man. I dont think anyone reading this believes in astrology anymore. hahaha. Your evidence supporting your argument seriously makes arguing in the favor of astrology seem like trying to argue that the tooth fairy scientifically exists, hahahahaha. Anyways, giver. Peace. I especially liked the part about the gravitational pull of saturn effecting us less then the gravitational pull of a parked car 6 feet away. i actually looked out the window for a parked car and considered this for a couple minutes before i actually figured out what you meant. LoL! And the Part about the Low-radiation TV having more radiation then the entire constellation of Virgo. That's super interesting information!
Though are you sure that that it is actually true?
I mean what about the "top 10 most intelligent comments of all time" said by super smart people at the time. that later were proven utterly ridiculous.
Such as: "[Man will never reach the moon] regardless of all future scientific advances." said by Dr.Lee DE Forest, inventor of the audion tube and father of radio, on febuary 25th 1967. Or "The Earth is the center of the universe" - Ptolemy, The great egyptian astronomer, in the second century. What about This, "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." -Western Union internal memo, in 1876. Or This, "For the majority of people, the use of tabacco, has a beneficial effect." -Dr. Ian G. Macdonald, Los Angeles surgeon, as quoted in newsweek november 18, 1969. ahhh, debating is too brutal and i dont know how to do it, so that is my argument, i give up. lol. Remember that time when you debated me about my cat being able to be my friend and you like totally crushed my evidence bryan? LoL D:
Alright, well i digested that information a little more, and talked to a few more people about horoscope's and yeah i like it. I think what you said about the saving grace of astrology give's astrology a fair chance at being a valuable tool for some people...
You also acknowledged the idea of there being a chance that we could gain valuable insight into our own lives through learning some fundamental principles of the universe. Though you didnt believe there was any way possible of accurately doing so at the moment... Fair enough.
The spirituality of astrology seems somewhat intriguing. Though i also totally see what you mean when you were talking about some parts of astrology seeming a little ignorant. LoL. Though i really don't mean to diss astrology at all, I think its quite interesting. I also believe that the Gravitational pull of my bed is too strong for me to right anymore at the moment. Haha anyways somebody else shine some light on astrology if you please.
People who consider themselves serious astrologers don't think much of the zodiac based articles in the paper.
Even those people who try to take as many factors as they can into consideration virtually never account for the change in the stars over time. For instance the point across the sky where various constelations are at present don't coincide with where they would have been two thousand years ago when the basic tenets of astrology where put together. Modern day practitioners for whatever reason don't seem to take this into account and so any predictions they make are made based on a sky that doesn't represent our own.
Sometimes astrologers try to give scientific backing to their theories by claiming that the gravitational or electromagnetic fields of the planets or stars have real effects on our personalities. What they don't take into consideration is that a parked car six feet away from you has a greater gravitational pull than does the massive planet saturn. Or that a a low-rad television set has far more electromagnetic radiation than the entire constallation virgo. Astrologers don't seem interested in these things though.
One interesting idea put forth by Tycho Brahe was that the universe works in some fundamental way and by studying the universe on a grand scale (the stars) we could gain insight into our own lives. This may be true but we simply don't have any reliable way to translate information from one to the other.
Some astrologers claim astrology to be a spiritual discipline and as such the benefit can only be measured in terms of the happiness it gives the practitioner. This I must refute since wouldn't happiness stemming from a more thorough and genuine understanding of the world around us be more valuable than one gifted out of our ignorance?
The saving grace of astrology as I understand it is that it causes people who might not otherwise be introspective a chance to examine themselves and their lives. The benefit from this should be obvious although I don't think that it represents any kind of ideal way to look into the self.
Well ki, that augta give you something to chew on :P.
Later man.
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I dont think anyone reading this believes in astrology anymore. hahaha.
Your evidence supporting your argument seriously makes arguing in the favor of astrology seem like trying to argue that the tooth fairy scientifically exists, hahahahaha.
Anyways, giver.
Peace.
I especially liked the part about the gravitational pull of saturn effecting us less then the gravitational pull of a parked car 6 feet away. i actually looked out the window for a parked car and considered this for a couple minutes before i actually figured out what you meant. LoL!
And the Part about the Low-radiation TV having more radiation then the entire constellation of Virgo. That's super interesting information!
Though are you sure that that it is actually true?
I mean what about the "top 10 most intelligent comments of all time" said by super smart people at the time. that later were proven utterly ridiculous.
Such as: "[Man will never reach the moon] regardless of all future scientific advances." said by Dr.Lee DE Forest, inventor of the audion tube and father of radio, on febuary 25th 1967.
Or
"The Earth is the center of the universe" - Ptolemy, The great egyptian astronomer, in the second century.
What about This,
"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." -Western Union internal memo, in 1876.
Or This,
"For the majority of people, the use of tabacco, has a beneficial effect."
-Dr. Ian G. Macdonald, Los Angeles surgeon, as quoted in newsweek november 18, 1969.
ahhh, debating is too brutal and i dont know how to do it, so that is my argument, i give up. lol.
Remember that time when you debated me about my cat being able to be my friend and you like totally crushed my evidence bryan? LoL D:
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I think what you said about the saving grace of astrology give's astrology a fair chance at being a valuable tool for some people...
You also acknowledged the idea of there being a chance that we could gain valuable insight into our own lives through learning some fundamental principles of the universe. Though you didnt believe there was any way possible of accurately doing so at the moment...
Fair enough.
The spirituality of astrology seems somewhat intriguing. Though i also totally see what you mean when you were talking about some parts of astrology seeming a little ignorant. LoL.
Though i really don't mean to diss astrology at all,
I think its quite interesting.
I also believe that the Gravitational pull of my bed is too strong for me to right anymore at the moment.
Haha anyways somebody else shine some light on astrology if you please.
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