Dear KH Fandom:

Dec 04, 2011 21:27

I know this will matter much to you, as you've spent a decade ignoring it, but ( Read more... )

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mzminola December 5 2011, 23:08:45 UTC
That is some distressing character-warping going on there, gotta agree with ya.

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Was that final analogy there really necessary?

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+1 whitepawn_alice December 6 2011, 00:24:39 UTC
That's a terribly unclassy analogy. Pot calling kettle black fits well enough imho

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Re: +1 cp_jacksparrow December 6 2011, 06:32:09 UTC
Hey, at least the analogy was to an anti-semite saying nazism is bad. It's unflatteringly hypocritical, but better than if I used an analogy to an actual Nazi (even in a bad mood, I don't want to cross into Godwin territory.)

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mzminola December 6 2011, 12:26:30 UTC
I though you already had crossed into Godwin territory with that analogy.

I'm not saying it's the worst thing you could have said. Just...why? Why did you need to go there? Why couldn't you have stuck with pot and kettle? Or come up with an analogy that didn't involve Nazis?

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cp_jacksparrow December 7 2011, 06:45:03 UTC
Pot and Kettle analogies are old and, frankly, don't do justice to the hypocrisy of people who post and be mean-spirited DAILY on a forum hate club devoting it all toward a character because supposedly she's ''hateful'' toward another character. Nazism probably would have been better left out of it, you're right, but it's in the analogy now and taking it out won't do much good at this point.

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mzminola December 7 2011, 18:35:27 UTC
I hope in the future you keep this conversation in mind, then, and leave Nazis out of any further fandom analogies.

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cp_jacksparrow December 8 2011, 06:11:28 UTC
It's on to Al Qaeda then!

*is shot*

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mzminola December 8 2011, 22:37:39 UTC
*facepalm*

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Re: +1 whitepawn_alice December 6 2011, 19:19:41 UTC
I don't think it even makes sense though. If the bashers are anti-semites, are you saying Kairi is the "nazist" in the analogy? That seems counter-productive to the point you're trying to make.

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Re: +1 cp_jacksparrow December 7 2011, 06:31:33 UTC
Yes and no. THEIR version of Kairi, the way they delusionally but sincerely see her...that's the nazist. The statement is that these people are rabidly devoted to hating a character who is, to them, a jealous, hateful bitch. All while they, of course, are acting like jealous, hateful bitches. That's the joke, and I didn't say the person the anti-semite was accusing really IS a Nazi; the point is the anti-semite has no right to be the one to make such an accusation.

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Re: +1 whitepawn_alice December 7 2011, 07:30:53 UTC
S'not a very good joke, that's all I'm saying. Character hating=/=decades of ingrained hatred for a minority group.

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Re: +1 mzminola December 7 2011, 18:36:34 UTC
Character hating=/=decades of ingrained hatred for a minority group.

So much this! Thank you!

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Re: +1 cp_jacksparrow December 8 2011, 06:17:28 UTC
I think you're taking the analogy far too literatelly, but that's just me.

Anyhow, we're veering ridiculously off topic. Do you have any thoughts on my actual subject matter?

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Re: +1 whitepawn_alice December 8 2011, 16:21:58 UTC
And I still think you shouldn't have used it.

And honestly? Kairi is a fictional character. She has no feelings to hurt and doesn't really need anyone to defend her. It doesn't matter if a small subset of a forum dedicates themselves to bashing her. The game came out five years ago, for God's sake. If they're still at it, I admire them for their dedication and suggest you leave them to it.

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Re: +1 cp_jacksparrow December 9 2011, 06:57:11 UTC
But of course! It's just a fictional character! The game came out 5 years ago! Fanbrat idiocity is admirable, hateful mischarecterizations should continue, and people shouldn't rant about it and just leave it be!

Seriously though, are you even aware of what the POINT of this comm is?

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Re: +1 cp_jacksparrow December 9 2011, 07:29:25 UTC
And when I say seriously, I mean it. I seriously wish to know. Why on earth would you dismiss my rant as pointless even though such rants are what this comm is for? Are you THAT peeved by the analogy that it affects your judgement on different matters?

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