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While I'm a little disappointed that it doesn't look like anything's going to happen with the health care bill I can't say the Democrats did much to help it. Maybe this co-op thing might be better anyways, I'm not sure.
While leftists have been shrieking for a while now about the lies spewed out of Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin or whoever and have been angered at the semi-organization behind opposition to the bill it's worth noting these Town Hall meetings should have taken place in the town hall of Kijongdong for all the veneered symbolism they tried to bring to the "debate". These meetings meant to come to a town hall-like solution or to really let people make up their minds - they were meant to sell a government-from-Washington program and as a result I think that there were probably a lot of people who knew that any serious debate would never happen anyways.
After all, the one person who gets to decide who won the debate ... is the one that hosted it to sell the program in the first place. So it's not a debate at all.
Clearly there was some lying about what was in the bill. But for all the Obama administration's promised transparency, though, it's asking a lot of people to have them read a bill that's over 1000 pages long to get the idea of it for themselves.
When Obama paints the situation in a you choose either hope or fear scenario I don't think it's much beyond the Bush-like bifurcated "you're with us or the terrorists".
I think this had a better chance if Democrats came out, said what was in it, told people how much money it would cost (and where it would come from), it would have had a much better chance.
While leftists have been shrieking for a while now about the lies spewed out of Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin or whoever and have been angered at the semi-organization behind opposition to the bill it's worth noting these Town Hall meetings should have taken place in the town hall of Kijongdong for all the veneered symbolism they tried to bring to the "debate". These meetings meant to come to a town hall-like solution or to really let people make up their minds - they were meant to sell a government-from-Washington program and as a result I think that there were probably a lot of people who knew that any serious debate would never happen anyways.
After all, the one person who gets to decide who won the debate ... is the one that hosted it to sell the program in the first place. So it's not a debate at all.
Clearly there was some lying about what was in the bill. But for all the Obama administration's promised transparency, though, it's asking a lot of people to have them read a bill that's over 1000 pages long to get the idea of it for themselves.
When Obama paints the situation in a you choose either hope or fear scenario I don't think it's much beyond the Bush-like bifurcated "you're with us or the terrorists".
I think this had a better chance if Democrats came out, said what was in it, told people how much money it would cost (and where it would come from), it would have had a much better chance.