Memories that Matter - or - My Thoughts on "Abyss" and Speculation SPOILERS

[kdsch123]

After a hiatus, since the misery of the seventh season of SV, I decided to start watching season 8. I've been kind of poky about it, since I really and truly was dubious about any kind of improvement that might have been made.

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disagree

[ghypscee]

I also disagree with you so whole-heartedly that i doubt i have the words for it. your analogy of taking keys is inadequate. car keys and memories are hardly comparible in this situation even when used metaphorically. chloe found out clark's secret (your analogy should be that she was looking for the keys and you knew she was looking for the keys but didn't have the heart to stop her, then she wasn't looking so hard and someone pointed her in the right direction and she found the keys) then he continually dragged her into his world (so instead of asking for the keys back, you allowed her to keep them and asked her repeatedly to drive you around while also asking her to maintain and pay for any upkeep on the car). by taking those memories from her, she is in even more danger considering the situation she is in (the brakes are no longer working in your car and you don't tell). if he wanted what was best for HER then he should have left altogether. there are many other places he could have gone that would have left chloe heart-broken but not with a large chunk of her life missing and changing the course of her life (in your analogy: you say you took the keys back when in reality you took the driver's seat and put her in the passenger's seat, violently and intentionally crashed the car into a tree then left her there while you took the keys back).
won't she question how she left journalism and started working at isis? not to mention the myriad of ofther questions she must have? what about her work with the league? simply put, how dare he! here is an analogy for you. you write fanfiction about a show based on a comic book that you did not create. no one asked you to start writing about this topic but you did, so how would you feel if i decide to erase everything that you have written, even after you expressly forbid me from doing it and telling me that it is what makes you, you and then i go into your home and erase it all so there isn't even a copy of it in your computer or on paper and tell you that you can never think about it again?
that is how a corporation works but is that the choice a hero makes FOR someone? if she had asked, then i wouldn't have written at all but she didn't. he broke her.
hoping that this is a plot device, how could chloe ever get past it? how do you forgive someone for doing something so heinous? someone you trusted so completely after begging him not to?
how would you feel in her shoes?
i know you already had this fight and i don't mean to start it up again, but i need somewhere to vent my frustration about this situation especially knowing that sv will be on hiatus for at least two months after the next ep.
sorry. i know we all have our opinions, but i must admit i was stunned to come here and find that you agreed with the situation. i would have never thought that you would agree that someone erasing your thoughts and memories against your express wishes would be okay and much less that you would justify it repeatedly. clark did what was best for him. chloe would have died for him, hell she has died for him and he couldn't take the guilt. doesn't she have to die anyway in the end? shouldn't her death be for something bigger than herself?
i'm taking a deep breath and reminding myself that it's only a tv show.
also i just remembered that you are a comic book fan. that explains a lot to me. you are all about canon. i hate canon and don't care much about the comic books except to give us the characters. i feel the show should be its own entity with its own canon.
i feel vented now. hopefully i won't think anymore about this stupid topic. my god, it's a freakin' tv show.

Re: disagree

[kdsch123]

I'm not going to reopen my argument here. Everything I had to say I said between Traci and I. I will say this, though, since you felt my key analogy was inadequate. If someone I loved was raped, and it was within my scope to remove the memory and pain of that experience from their minds - along with knowledge about myself that led to their being exposed to their rapist, I might just go ahead and do that. As for how I would feel about this happening to me? I don't know, and I really can't say. I can say,though, if I were Clark, I'd have done the same thing.

There was nothing selfish about what Clark did, especially with what he said MOMENTS before Chloe was healed by the Fortress. He took on any circumstances that would arise from healing her, too - Jor-El warned Clark that serious complications and problems would arise in freeing Chloe from Brainiac's hold. Nothing about what Clark did at the end of Abyss was in his best interest. He did himself out of his closest confidante, to save her from any further danger.

We don't know what memories were taken, or if they were altered enough to cover holes in her memory, or actually if memories were really taken at all. In the end, it's a crappy plot device that Smallville has used way too often. I'm very sorry if my opinion upset you further, but I'm glad you realize it's just a show, too. :)