I really miss the fun of raiding... And I didn't realize how much I missed it until yesterday... but it probably wouldn't have clicked if I hadn't done AQ20 with EO recently. A few days ago, I was farting around as Alixander, and Atreus dropped me a line. "Hey, you want to hop onto Kaz and join us for an AQ20 run?" My response was "Yeah!" "In fact, not just yeah, but oh hell yes!". So I logged out and hopped onto Kaz, and hurried to Silithus, picking up a few quests on my way. Now, AQ20 was all new to me. So I go in, not really knowing what was going to happen. So I went in doing a lot of new fights, seeing stuff I'd not seen before and I loved it!
So yesterday, as I was bebopping around my work computer I found a video of EO vs Nefarian kill (possibly the first...) I just watched it, smiling. And then it hit me... I miss the challenge. Raiding is fun because you can get loot or whatever, but I've always enjoyed the unadulterated challenge that raiding presents (much harder than almost any 5 man challenge in the game).
I can raid with EO Alts Raiding, but the more I talk with Grok, the more I help him run his show, the more I realize two problems... first and most obvious is that there is the huge limiting factor of this is being run by EO members, and their first priority is to EO. This isn't a problem, but is a very limiting factor on when EO Alts can raid. Second issue is that I see EO Alt Raids as not really being forward driven. Not that there is anything wrong with farming an instance as long as it gives loot normally (other than it's boring...), but I would be willing to bet as long as EO is active in a zone, we won't be going there...
Now, I would be lying if I said I hadn't entertained thoughts of returning to EO. But really only momentarily. My schedule hasn't changed, and I still am unwilling to devote around half of my free time per week to raiding. 24 hours a week is a lot, esp. since 16~ hours of it is on weekdays. And even if my work schedule changed, or I suddenly found myself independently wealthy, I wouldn't rejoin EO, just because I enjoy being in OWL far too much. Before I was only leaving behind 2-3 friends (Steel, Horg, Oakshala) and those who were closest to me in WoW were going with me, but now I've made a lot more friends in OWL. I simply don't want to go. But as I listed above I doubt EO Alt raids is going to be what I want... For lack of any better term I hunger for more content than OWL will ever give me, but I refuse to leave OWL for some other guild, just to raid. So that leaves me with two options:
1) I try get enough people in OWL to the point where they can raid. >.> I think it would be less painful if I tried to bang my head against a wall. We simply don't have, and probably never will have the manpower. Even if I became an officer and found 40 people willing to join the guild to raid, I don't think I'd like what it would do to OWL, so it really doesn't matter because I don't want to change OWL just to fulfill my desire to raid.
2) Form a multi-guild raiding group. Something like Elune's Invalid Target Raid Group. This would get me what I want, without having to destroy what we've created in OWL. This also comes with the additional benefit of if I make it, I can have it happen on days when OWL members can attend, since there are at least two OWL members who I know want to raid, but can't b/c EO Alt raiding happens during times they just aren't free. Obviously I wouldn't schedule it just around OWLers, but it would be more OWL friendly than EO Alt raiding is.
In the end, this is a really weird way to see what Ain and Horg thing about my idea... *looks at the guild leaders for a response*