Re: Abigail: My first thought was, bizarrely, "NO! There can't be an immortal character named Abigail! I'll have to change the name of the mentor of my time-travel-scifi-fantasy-whatever novel!"
But if this winds up as a massive undo button for everything that's happened to Nine & Ten, I will seriously lose my shit.
I... will not be surprised about this. I felt like the last ten/fifteen minutes of "Journey's End" were a giant reset button for S1-S4 of the new series, so it really wouldn't surprise me if RTD resets ALL of canon before he leaves. (I am a little bitter about "Journey's End" still. I am perhaps more bitter about it than I am bitter about CoE. Which I will get to in a moment.)
I see your DONNA. DONNA DONNA DONNA DONNA! and raise you another DONNA! DONNA! DONNA! DONNA! Because...Donna!
Now the word "Donna" has stopped looking like a word :ORe: John Simm: John Simm reminded me why I love John Simm. I wasn't super-thrilled by the S3 finale/arc, so I always forget that I really did adore John Simm as the Master
( ... )
My issues with CoE have less to do with Ianto and the destruction of the Hub (although they do have to do with those things too) than they do with THE COMPLETE LACK OF INVOLVEMENT OF THE REST OF THE WHONIVERSE. THIS. EXACTLY THIS. Ianto broke my heart into a billion tiny pieces, of course, but part of Torchwood is dying young, and this was always going to happen at some point. It's the way it was handled that pissed me off -- CoE was not a Torchwood story. It was a fascinating, well-written five hours of television that Torchwood was shunted into as an afterthought, and that was not okay. It didn't fit into the Whoniverse at all. Gah.
Mickey Smith would have fucking kicked the 456's gaseous asses all over London.Um, clearly
( ... )
I can forgive a lot of wtf that was going on due to the wonderfulness of Wilf and Donna (sniffles) but if I get my heart broken by them, on top of the tears for 10 I'll lose it aieeee! I'm scared!
and COE yes, seems so sort of stuck on doesn't it? I really don't see why it can't be at least addressed on Who, since suicide (after the Doctor saves you!) is now part of canon. All kinds of horrible things have happened on Who, The Doctor killed his whole planet including his family.
I think what worries me even more is it won't be addressed in series 4 of Torchwood either. COE would change everything, governments could collapse, citizens would arm themselves etc. Hope I'm wrong but I can see it being glossed over. Till the 456 are brought back for some season finale.
Oh, I've already prepared for my heart being broken. It's just HOW at this point, and I don't really trust Russell T Davies anymore. He likes breaking his toys a little too much for my tastes.
But if this winds up as a massive undo button for everything that's happened to Nine & Ten, I will seriously lose my shit.
THIS*9. I've been avoiding spoilers, but I've seen people speculate that RTD might pull out the big red reset button. I hadn't thought it was likely or a good idea, but now that it looks disturbingly possible I am worried. I like continuity. I like actions having consequences. I like it when "impossible" means something, especially when that word is applied to changing the outcome of the Time War. God help my twisted little soul, I like how profound heartbreak balances against madcap joy in the Doctor. A big reset would undo all of those things
( ... )
Yes, this, exactly. Continuity in storytelling, consequences, all of this. I can handle RTD going to dark places, for the most part, when it serves the story (as opposed to his notable fondness for breaking his toys just for the hell of it). "Journey's End" may have broken my heart, but I actually liked all of the narrative choices made in it, even Donna -- because there are consequences, and the Doctor does terrible things to prevent even more terrible things, and, yes. Awful and tragic, but yes. A reset would just -- invalidate everything we've loved and invested into this show. Ugh. (I don't actually believe he's going to go there; I'm just nervous.)
Comments 8
But if this winds up as a massive undo button for everything that's happened to Nine & Ten, I will seriously lose my shit.
I... will not be surprised about this. I felt like the last ten/fifteen minutes of "Journey's End" were a giant reset button for S1-S4 of the new series, so it really wouldn't surprise me if RTD resets ALL of canon before he leaves. (I am a little bitter about "Journey's End" still. I am perhaps more bitter about it than I am bitter about CoE. Which I will get to in a moment.)
I see your DONNA. DONNA DONNA DONNA DONNA! and raise you another DONNA! DONNA! DONNA! DONNA! Because...Donna!
Now the word "Donna" has stopped looking like a word :ORe: John Simm: John Simm reminded me why I love John Simm. I wasn't super-thrilled by the S3 finale/arc, so I always forget that I really did adore John Simm as the Master ( ... )
Reply
THIS. EXACTLY THIS. Ianto broke my heart into a billion tiny pieces, of course, but part of Torchwood is dying young, and this was always going to happen at some point. It's the way it was handled that pissed me off -- CoE was not a Torchwood story. It was a fascinating, well-written five hours of television that Torchwood was shunted into as an afterthought, and that was not okay. It didn't fit into the Whoniverse at all. Gah.
Mickey Smith would have fucking kicked the 456's gaseous asses all over London.Um, clearly ( ... )
Reply
YANA.
Reply
Reply
I can forgive a lot of wtf that was going on due to the wonderfulness of Wilf and Donna (sniffles) but if I get my heart broken by them, on top of the tears for 10 I'll lose it aieeee! I'm scared!
and COE yes, seems so sort of stuck on doesn't it? I really don't see why it can't be at least addressed on Who, since suicide (after the Doctor saves you!) is now part of canon. All kinds of horrible things have happened on Who, The Doctor killed his whole planet including his family.
I think what worries me even more is it won't be addressed in series 4 of Torchwood either. COE would change everything, governments could collapse, citizens would arm themselves etc. Hope I'm wrong but I can see it being glossed over. Till the 456 are brought back for some season finale.
Reply
Reply
THIS*9. I've been avoiding spoilers, but I've seen people speculate that RTD might pull out the big red reset button. I hadn't thought it was likely or a good idea, but now that it looks disturbingly possible I am worried. I like continuity. I like actions having consequences. I like it when "impossible" means something, especially when that word is applied to changing the outcome of the Time War. God help my twisted little soul, I like how profound heartbreak balances against madcap joy in the Doctor. A big reset would undo all of those things ( ... )
Reply
Reply
Leave a comment