I was asking because I am not sure how big of a news it was. Of course I've seen the explosion of glee over the gay scenes but I was looking in interested places so it is not a surprise. What made you want to watch it? I am honestly curious. Do you like it so far?
Oh, it's pretty big news. Everywhere you're looking is someone talking about it one way or the other. On my f-list too.
"What made you want to watch it? I am honestly curious."
that .gif. simple as that. it was the only reason i started watching the series.
"Do you like it so far?"
no. it's an average show. the plot is all over the place and it has no strong direction. i barely like the characters. everyone is sketched so briefly. i hardly find myself intrigued by any of them. most of them are walking clichees. The only interesting character for me is Tyrion Lannister, the Dwarf. The way the episodes are directed after the script is so confusing. There is no sense of time or place...I also don't like the way old stories or details we have to know about are done in dialogues that look exactly how "and here, dear watcher you find about the past and who was who and blablablabla".
The only reason why we'll still watching this is because we don't have anything else to watch anymore (all our shows that we looked at are now in present broadcasting).
I was sure this show was not really interesting by the time everyone got excited. I hate to be demonstrated right.
...I don't know. I just wait for that goddamn winter to finally come and those walkers to start walking and shit to go Berserk. Nothing is really drawing me in right now otherwise.
I come from series like Rome and big other movie series that actually HAD a cast of actors - great ones too - and plot - oh yes, this one really lacks an interesting plot.
So how are the books? I remember you mentioned reading them at one point. Ar they better than the movies series?
Oh. and i just remembered. sis is amused by all the "nipple action" how she calls it / every episode. don't get me wrong, Rome had breasts and fucking all over the place too, but there it was done completely different. It was done perfect.
Ah, I've actually read the same to what you're saying concerning the plot. True and valid points, although I haven't really realized it myself. I am not sure the plot will ever come together? Since it is spanning 4 books out of planned 7 at the moment. I do find it interesting and I am falling in love with the characters quite easily.
Tyrion is definitelly the best as far as the character and the casting goes. The show is following the book faithfully for now, maybe that is its problem? (And they are trying to cram a lot of things in just 10 episodes.) But I stopped reading it, the moment I got ahead of the show and watched the episodes already knowing what happens it started feeling somewhat flat and wrong. I do enjoy the book, I like the writing and it pulls me in easily, I like the different POVs from various characters and it makes me feel for them more. But I'll read it only after I see the episode since it doesn't bother me that way, it only adds new perspective and depth that the show didn't show because well.
But yes, nipple action, it has plenty of it, it is like they're adding sex and blood and gore every opportunity they've got. I've come to accept it. But I haven't watched Rome, I know of it, because Kevin McKidd was in it and maybe I'll watch it sometimes since I hear it is good from various sources.
Yes, I feel like they should have really paced themselves better there. I mean the book series isn't even finished! The author takes 5 years per book! If they're planning to do the whole series (I really have no idea what their plans are but they have been approved for the 2nd season) and season per book they're going to run out of books pretty soon.
"But yes, nipple action, it has plenty of it, it is like they're adding sex and blood and gore every opportunity they've got."
It's very Hollywood and gratuitous. It doesn't seem natural and like its a mean to demonstrate something or to show something. In Rome fucking, lesbians, gays, incest, pedophilia, rape etc. was done exactly how it was supposed to be done. You didn't felt like "oh, and this is for the fellas so they can fap on a Friday night" or "let us shock our viewers Saw style just for the sake of shocking", while with Game of Thrones I definitely feel it this way. Rome was raw and more than once it went deeper to the most darkest and twisted realities. There was a certain 5 rated experience when watching in Rome a sex scene or a cruel gore fight. It had a rawness and a push of limit the scenarists and directors took responsibility from day 1 (and you could feel that; it was fucking unbelievable). Here is just like child play and it's like a scene from Beverly Hills 2010.
Yes, it is like that. For some reason they're using the sex scenes to get more exposition on the characters, which on one hand is very useful since it clues you in on things you'd find out by yourself in the books naturally and here there just isn't time for it, but then again it could have been in another way. Like in the last episode they had het scene with Theon Greyjoy to clue you in where he might stand in his allegiances to Starks, and a gay scene to show both Loras' and Renly's ambitions.
While a gay scene was pretty nice because it still is considered pushing the boundaries the Theon one, well, it was pretty gratuitous. They had a similar exposition of his character in a conversation with Tyrion. Same goes with Littlefinger and Lord Varys (the two scheming guys that are trying to outwit and intimidate one another in a throne room scene), where in theory they could have put another sex scene in, seeing their pattern.
Also with gore, the same things happen in the book, because books are not tame in comparison and they're pretty bloody and high on death count (from what I've spoiled myself so far) but it is like every chance they get to show somebody's death they grasp it tightly and they make it more bloody and more dramatic than I get a impression of them in the books (of course it could be my lack of imagination on my part).
A large part of it has to do with the fact that it's HBO too. As a cable channel you have to pay a lot extra for, I think they feel the need to have gratuitous nudity/sex and violence like they did in True Blood.
i was just discussing this with rhea the other night
I think just about tonight we'll start watching Games of throats and deepthroating ourselves. yes.
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(not really ahahaha but you know.. that is a bonus! hopefully there's more:DDD)
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"What made you want to watch it? I am honestly curious."
that .gif. simple as that. it was the only reason i started watching the series.
"Do you like it so far?"
no. it's an average show. the plot is all over the place and it has no strong direction. i barely like the characters. everyone is sketched so briefly. i hardly find myself intrigued by any of them. most of them are walking clichees. The only interesting character for me is Tyrion Lannister, the Dwarf. The way the episodes are directed after the script is so confusing. There is no sense of time or place...I also don't like the way old stories or details we have to know about are done in dialogues that look exactly how "and here, dear watcher you find about the past and who was who and blablablabla".
The only reason why we'll still watching this is because we don't have anything else to watch anymore (all our shows that we looked at are now in present broadcasting).
I was sure this show was not really interesting by the time everyone got excited. I hate to be demonstrated right.
...I don't know. I just wait for that goddamn winter to finally come and those walkers to start walking and shit to go Berserk. Nothing is really drawing me in right now otherwise.
I come from series like Rome and big other movie series that actually HAD a cast of actors - great ones too - and plot - oh yes, this one really lacks an interesting plot.
So how are the books? I remember you mentioned reading them at one point. Ar they better than the movies series?
Oh. and i just remembered. sis is amused by all the "nipple action" how she calls it / every episode. don't get me wrong, Rome had breasts and fucking all over the place too, but there it was done completely different. It was done perfect.
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Tyrion is definitelly the best as far as the character and the casting goes. The show is following the book faithfully for now, maybe that is its problem? (And they are trying to cram a lot of things in just 10 episodes.) But I stopped reading it, the moment I got ahead of the show and watched the episodes already knowing what happens it started feeling somewhat flat and wrong. I do enjoy the book, I like the writing and it pulls me in easily, I like the different POVs from various characters and it makes me feel for them more. But I'll read it only after I see the episode since it doesn't bother me that way, it only adds new perspective and depth that the show didn't show because well.
But yes, nipple action, it has plenty of it, it is like they're adding sex and blood and gore every opportunity they've got. I've come to accept it. But I haven't watched Rome, I know of it, because Kevin McKidd was in it and maybe I'll watch it sometimes since I hear it is good from various sources.
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i think that's the problem that i feel the most acutely to be honest
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It's very Hollywood and gratuitous. It doesn't seem natural and like its a mean to demonstrate something or to show something. In Rome fucking, lesbians, gays, incest, pedophilia, rape etc. was done exactly how it was supposed to be done. You didn't felt like "oh, and this is for the fellas so they can fap on a Friday night" or "let us shock our viewers Saw style just for the sake of shocking", while with Game of Thrones I definitely feel it this way. Rome was raw and more than once it went deeper to the most darkest and twisted realities. There was a certain 5 rated experience when watching in Rome a sex scene or a cruel gore fight. It had a rawness and a push of limit the scenarists and directors took responsibility from day 1 (and you could feel that; it was fucking unbelievable). Here is just like child play and it's like a scene from Beverly Hills 2010.
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While a gay scene was pretty nice because it still is considered pushing the boundaries the Theon one, well, it was pretty gratuitous. They had a similar exposition of his character in a conversation with Tyrion. Same goes with Littlefinger and Lord Varys (the two scheming guys that are trying to outwit and intimidate one another in a throne room scene), where in theory they could have put another sex scene in, seeing their pattern.
Also with gore, the same things happen in the book, because books are not tame in comparison and they're pretty bloody and high on death count (from what I've spoiled myself so far) but it is like every chance they get to show somebody's death they grasp it tightly and they make it more bloody and more dramatic than I get a impression of them in the books (of course it could be my lack of imagination on my part).
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