listing the crybabies and the Real Men™

Apr 17, 2005 12:29

I saw Million Dollar Baby yesterday (fantastic movie!) and cried like a little sprinkler system. My only comfort is that so did Clint Eastwood ( Read more... )

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lilith_morgana April 17 2005, 13:43:16 UTC
Yup.

Although, in the HP verse I'm inclined to put Sirius in the Real Man category. Gryffindors usually are. They have Big Shiny Sword as symbol, they all rock at Quiddtich (which is like, the most manly sport EVAR what with the manouvering of brooms ;)) and they always win over the queer Slytherins.

One day I'll write the "Masculinities in the HP verse: The snake and the sword" essay and conquer all. :)

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anaid_rabbit April 17 2005, 14:18:09 UTC
And they repress their emotions. Harry, like the Manly Man he aspires to be, never cries and displays his emotions through outbursts of anger, like any Real Man is ought to do.

There`s usually a sense of disgust at male crying or otherwise some form of emotional release not related to violence in the Gryffindor-ish Potterverse - it`s a weakness. That`s what Slytherins (and honorary Slyth Peter Pettigrew) do.

Of course, women and girls (even role model Hermione and no nonsense McGonagall) are allowed to cry, scream and shriek all the time. That`s what we do after all. And men or boys that behave like this are thus effeminate thus bad/evil. Isn`t it brilliant?

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lilith_morgana April 17 2005, 14:27:35 UTC
There`s usually a sense of disgust at male crying or otherwise some form of emotional release not related to violence in the Gryffindor-ish Potterverse - it`s a weakness.

Yes, Harry struggles all through the books to never show emotions. Ron, when giving in to his emotions in GoF, was labelled HORRIBLE FRIEND and Draco is of course an upper-crust queer so we don't need to discuss his tendency to scream and be camp. Snape's scariest moments are all tied to his (shittily buried) emotions. He gets to be cool and all Secret Agent Man solely when he can restrain himself, but as soon as his fucked-up nature shows too clearly, we are meant to wince in horror. Fandom was in agreement after OotP: "omg Snape grow up and be a MAN!" Stoicism is the way, yo.

/random snark mode. :)

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kattahj April 17 2005, 18:54:26 UTC
Although, in the HP verse I'm inclined to put Sirius in the Real Man category.

He's a rather macho man, no question about it, but since Real Men™ don't cry or talk about emotions, Sirius doesn't qualify - he's admitted to being scared and said all kinds of other incriminating things. *grin*

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lilith_morgana April 17 2005, 18:56:34 UTC
True. :)

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