And now we have the last day of Worldcon, plus a whole bunch of
links to other people's all-con reports.
Monday morning, I ran down to the dealer's room to arrange for a
replacement wooden dragon (having found it broken the night
before), and then packed and got our bags checked. This took up
enough time that I didn't make it to any programming until 1:00 pm,
a half-hour discussion of Diana Gabaldon moderated by Sandra
McDonald. I guess Programming figured that at least two people
would show up for it, McDonald and me, who independently suggested
the topic.
There were only four other people there-not a patch on
Boskone's J.D. Robb discussions (I'd missed the Noreascon version
while packing)-but we had a nice chat about the books,
including an interesting variety of responses to "what's the one
thing you'd like Gabaldon to write" (mine was to see Lord John
happy), even if things did slide into the Dread Casting Debate (I
have very little interest in such things, especially for the
Outlander series).
After that I ducked into Madeleine Robins' reading from the
third of the Sarah Tolerance novels, which may have a title but if
so I don't recall. She read a section that grew out of her
annoyance with movies and books that have the protagonist hit on
the head and then run around as though nothing had happened. Ms.
Robins is a very good reader, sliding into light accents for the
dialogue between the London characters. The Q&A period after
had a serious TMI moment from the audience, but of more general
interest (perhaps), Robins said that she hadn't intended to make
Sir Walter Mandif (not so tall, light hair, long nose, foxy face)
look like Lord Peter Wimsey; she was simply trying for a contrast
with a very conventionally handsome character in the first
novel.
And then to the last thing of the con, the Dead panel:
How Do You Know When You're Dead? Description:
The movie The Sixth Sense was not the first fiction to feature a
character who is dead. Niven's Inferno, Connie Willis' Passages,
and Philip José Farmer's Riverworld series all have
protagonists who are dead or die and continue to be featured
players. What other fiction features dead people? (And we don't
mean vampires-but why not?) Are there any restrictions on the
actions of dead people? What are some of the reactions of the
characters who find themselves dead? Are there advantages to having
a dead protagonist? Should we always fear the walking dead? What do
they have to tell us? (Must we listen? Do they lie?) Do they return
to harm or advise us? Do they come to warn or blame, comfort or
prophesize? Do they offer us forgiveness or courage, or perhaps
death itself? Discuss the use of the returning dead, and explain
why they are such fascinating subjects. Scott Edelman (m), Neil
Gaiman, Larry Niven, Terry Pratchett, Uncle River, Connie
Willis
This panel was packed, but
veejane was kind enough to
save me a seat. It featured a considerable split between people who
wanted to talk seriously about death, near-death experiences, and
the afterlife, and people who wanted to make jokes. (At 2:00 pm on
the last day of a Worldcon, you can probably imagine which side I
was on.)
I believe the panel started with a question to the panel about
why people write about the dead.
- Pratchett: because they're funny! They give you a whole new way
of looking at life.
- Gaiman: he's been reading an American Gods script,
and it's reminded him of how much he liked writing Laura. In his
current WIP, he had a character die by surprise (ETA: it was a
surprise to him, the author, I meant), and in the next
chapter that character is walking through walls and so forth. Dead
characters are outside the story and provide a different
perspective.
- Pratchett: they also can provide extra horror as well
(mentioning the animal ghosts in Wyrd Sisters).
- Willis: she writes about the really dead, not the undead. What
if the worst isn't over when you die?
- Uncle River: discussed some personal experiences regarding
dreams.
Edelman brought up zombie movies: why are they going funny all
of a sudden? Both Gaiman and Pratchett referred to a very fannish
TV series called Spaced (looking it up, apparently
Shaun of the Dead was made by the same people).
Pratchett said this is an example of getting humor from
contradictory expectations. Gaiman said his next kids book is
going to be The Graveyard Book, like The Jungle
Book except the kid is raised by dead people. Willis brought
up the film Truly Madly Deeply, which suggests that
maybe what the dead really want is to rent a lot of videos.
Niven said that what the dead really want is to have their books
made into movies. Willis said that the end of the panel would
feature the ritual sacrifice of Larry Niven; and Gaiman added that
years later, the discovery that Niven faked his own death would
rock the SF community.
Gaiman then did a funny riff on mediums cold-reading the
audience, ending with, "and you should make a film of something by
Larry Niven."
Uncle River tried to inject a serious note, asking if maybe the
dead are more interested in the other dead than in the living. How
do they interact with each other? It didn't work, as the responses
were Willis wondering if being dead meant you couldn't get out of
conversation with people you don't like, and Edelman saying that
hell is really the SFWA suite-without beer. (Pratchett told a
silly story in here drinking a lot of beer and then, at 3:00 am,
mistaking the hotel door for a bathroom door.)
Gaiman pointed out that the dead aren't limited to fantasy, but
appear in science fiction as well-reviving corpses,
downloading consciousness, etc. Niven added freezing, and the guy
spending a year dead for tax purposes in Restaurant at the
End of the Universe. Willis said that a side effect of
immortality through nanotech is-no more dead people stories!
Pratchett pointed out that "we won't die" is similar to "we are
going to Mars": who is "we" here? Gaiman mentioned the
daft website someone sent
him about investing in a time travel research fund.
Edelman asked how, as writers, they decided whether they want
their undead to be SFnal or fantastic. Pratchett was of the opinion
that all you're doing is changing the name. Niven, a bit later,
said that if you're doing wish-fulfillment, he's rather do it in
fantasy because it's easier to believe.
Willis thought that the traditional ghost story is a thing of
power that is oddly ignored by the genre, except for things like
the movie The Others. She thinks it's best as
spine-tingingly creepy rather than icky. Gaiman suggested that the
joy of a really good ghost story is that things don't really make
sense, the universe is a little more mysterious at the end. Willis
agreed, again citing Truly Madly Deeply.
Question from the audience: has your view of death changed as
you got older?
- Pratchett: there's a strong feeling that the Discworld Death is
kind of on our side.
- Gaiman: similarly with Death of the Endless.
- They both get fan mail about people who've had loved ones die,
which is the kind of thing that makes them stare at the wall for
ten minutes not knowing what to do.
- (An audience member thanked Gaiman for the scene in
Sandman issue 8 when Death comes for an infant, and
then left crying.)
Willis, in response to a question, said that she thought humans
can't imagine the world without us specifically in it, so you get
this impulse in literature to try and make sense of it. Edelman
brought up Our Town (which it's been ages since I
read, but
veejane firmly disagreed with his
interpretation).
Someone in the audience brought up voodoo zombies.
- Gaiman: If you're going to exploit someone, it's a good idea to
exploit the dead: they aren't in unions.
- Pratchett: Yet.
- Audience member: No, there are in India.
- Panel: Well, you can't just leave it at that!
- Audience member: It's for people who've been declared legally
dead by their families, to advocate for them.
- Pratchett: Maybe it's a good deal? Can't be made to pay taxes,
can't be executed twice . . .
- Willis: Rehangings are
historical . . .
Gaiman, perhaps going back to zombies, said that he wanted a
proper coffin when he died, one he could get out of and shamble.
Coffins, he reported, are comfy; he got to lay down in one for a
Halloween special, and as the lid closed, he realized it had been
used. He said most of him was thinking, "Cool!", but his
hindbrain was saying, "We're in a coffin!".
Pratchett said that he'd been at a Bram Stoker Society dinner or
award ceremony or something, and two things: they said grace; and
the waitress asked if he wanted a vegetarian entree. "And people
ask me where I get my ideas!"
Gaiman said that death, like anything else we don't know about,
is a good place to get stories from. On one hand, no-one can
contradict you; and on the other, we wonder about it.
Someone asked what portrayal of death had the most impact on the
panel members.
- Willis: Charles Williams' (of the Inklings) All Hallows
Eve.
- Niven: he's seen too many and they all seem plausible. (I think
this is what my notes say.)
- Pratchett: Bergman's The Seventh Seal.
- Uncle River: real ones.
- Gaiman: a story he heard when he was 12, from the Kabbalah,
that the Angel of Death was created so beautiful that you're not
allowed to see her (or him, or it, I forget) until the moment of
death, when you fall in love so hard that your soul is sucked out
through your eyes.
- Edelman: the third act of Our Town.
/end panel report
And that was it for our Worldcon, basically.
Monday reports:
- A live-blog report on the
gripe session.
It doesn't sound like there were too many. I've heard on Usenet
complaints about the computer "lounge," but I understand the
problem of the expense. Me, I have no real gripes: as far as I
could tell, everything worked beautifully (except for the
inexplicable scheduling of Bujold's reading in one of the Sheraton
(i.e., non-big) rooms).
- ckd.
- marykaykare.
Slightly-Annotated List of Other People's
Reports
These are not in any particular order. Really, you've all seen
these by now; this is for my future reference.
Panel Reports (for things I didn't go to)
All-Con Reports
- Of course, there's the official con live blog. The Newsletters
also give a flavor. Currently, the front page of the con has links to
lots of posts as well.
- fluffcthulhu reported
on brains he ate, with lots of pictures.
- xiphias wrote up the con chronologically, starting
with this
post. He adds an "Ask Dr. Mike" question that I forgot to write
up (whether mad scientist or evil genius is a better career path),
reports on drinking a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster, and describes a
whole lot of panels I didn't go to.
- cheshyre did her report
as one non-LJ document, organized by theme. I think we only
overlapped on "Ask Dr. Mike" and the Dead panel.
- papersky made a series of thematic posts: too
much fun, friends,
panels,
business,
the
globe at the Christian Science Center.
- Emerald City blogged during the con, starting
with this post (scroll up); presumably a long writeup is
forthcoming.
- veejane posted general
notes, including the observation that "Connie Willis is the
science fiction equivalent of Julia Child."
- malkingrey posted bits
and pieces, including her panels.
- fearlessdiva posted
a short report, including information about Hank Reinhardt, the
swordsmaster who gave the cool talk on edged weapons.
- msagara (who I don't think I so much as laid eyes on)
posted in basically chronological order: part
one, part
two, miscellaneous
on Lois McMaster Bujold's cool necklace.
- Off LJ, John Scalzi posted a wrapup
and a report of a bar conversation on book
deal descriptions.
- Justine Larbalestier described
the panels she was on.
- Jimcat Kasprzak posted
some e-mails he sent during the con.
(By the way, anyone who responded to my
Tolkien and
religion post and doesn't have comment notification, sorry for
the delay-I've been tired or busy or thinking-but I've
finally answered you.)