Real-Time Review of Teen Titans 46
Complete with spoilers.
[17:02] katarik: HA, i get to pwn my comic store dude -- he mocked me for calling slade slade instead of deathstroke and was all 'nobody calls him that!' and YES THEY DO, SO THERE
[17:02] ilyena_sylph: YES THEY DO
[17:02] katarik: also, dick's betrayed angry little face. *pets him*
[17:03] ilyena_sylph: "Slade, this isn't your fight!"
[17:03] ilyena_sylph: -- Dinah.
[17:03] ilyena_sylph: though she has been known to call him all 3.
[17:04] ilyena_sylph: Slade, Wilson, and Deathstroke. Generally the last once he's pissed her off
[17:04] katarik: *grins*
[17:04] ilyena_sylph: and yes, *pets Dick gently*
[17:04] katarik: slade, the outsiders crack was just *mean*
[17:05] ilyena_sylph: yes, it was.
[17:05] ilyena_sylph: but it was also true
[17:05] ilyena_sylph: and keeping Dick distracted from what his actual goal is is important
[17:06] katarik: donna's pissed. oh, boy.
[17:06] ilyena_sylph: yes.
[17:06] ilyena_sylph: oh, boy, indeed
[17:06] ilyena_sylph: we know what happens when Donna's pissed at him
[17:06] katarik: *hides in shelter far far away*
[17:06] ilyena_sylph: and he doesn't have a train around to distract her with
[17:06] katarik: slade, dude, you might be in some trouble
[17:07] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:07] katarik: i love that dick is protective of titans island, but i'm still confused over how Evil Titans Tower got built and he didn't notice
[17:07] ilyena_sylph: so am i
[17:07] ilyena_sylph: slade stealthed it?
[17:07] katarik: how do you stealth something like that from *everybody*?
[17:07] ilyena_sylph: like the pyramid that stealthed it the first time?
[17:08] katarik: how fast did it get built, anyway?
[17:08] ilyena_sylph: damn fast, apparently.
[17:08] katarik: clearly slade has connections
[17:08] ilyena_sylph: so i figure he must have had illusion generators up
[17:08] ilyena_sylph: at the very least
[17:09] ilyena_sylph: the ones that used to throw the illusion of the Tower?
[17:09] katarik: *nods*
[17:09] ilyena_sylph: use 'em to throw clear air instead?
[17:10] katarik: i still don't much like the art, but i am liking this fight between slade and dick.
[17:10] katarik: *shocked surprise*
[17:11] ilyena_sylph: *laugh* it was a damn good fight
[17:11] katarik: i can see slade's affection for the kid! and their history!
[17:11] katarik: it's, like, *in character*
[17:11] ilyena_sylph: *Nodnodnodnodnodnod*
[17:12] katarik: <-- SHOCKED SURPRISE
[17:12] ilyena_sylph: *NOD*
[17:12] ilyena_sylph: wonder if Dick's remembering the last time he fought Slade on that Island
[17:13] katarik: given joey's presence now? oh yeah
[17:13] ilyena_sylph: *aches for him*
[17:13] ilyena_sylph: *them*
[17:13] katarik: you *have* been fighting children half your career, slade, you moron
[17:14] ilyena_sylph: *snicker*
[17:14] ilyena_sylph: so true
[17:14] katarik: and don't even give me that 'graves dug' bull
[17:14] ilyena_sylph: hm?
[17:15] katarik: graves dug, ha, you couldn't kill the titans when you were *trying*
[17:15] ilyena_sylph: *laughter*
[17:15] ilyena_sylph: so true
[17:15] ilyena_sylph: you have Filly collapsing in gales of laughter
[17:15] katarik: i own the issue where he tried to blow them up with a bomb
[17:15] katarik: sorry, no, titans east? not gonna cut it.
[17:16] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:16] katarik: (i still think titans east was a dumb dumb plan)
[17:16] ilyena_sylph: not for wh---read
[17:16] ilyena_sylph: just READ
[17:17] katarik: AAAAAAAAGH, what the crap, what is with the stuff slade is telling joey now?!?
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: just.
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: keep.
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: reading
[17:17] katarik: but -- but it caused me to shriek out loud in pain and agony!
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: just.
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: keep.
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: reading
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: and no you are not allowed to skip to the last page
[17:18] katarik: spoilsport
[17:18] katarik: *sputters*
[17:18] katarik: ROSE
[17:18] katarik: HONEY
[17:18] katarik: BABY
[17:18] ilyena_sylph: hmm?
[17:18] ilyena_sylph: which line?
[17:18] katarik: lili's ghost is going to *kill* you, slade
[17:18] katarik: the 'never should've had you' line
[17:18] katarik: which i know is a lie, but SHE doesn't think so
[17:18] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:19] ilyena_sylph: and yes, lili would murder him for that
[17:19] katarik: she would be so justified!!!
[17:19] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:19] ilyena_sylph: keep reading
[17:19] katarik: i am, i am
[17:20] katarik: i like the duela 'titans together' thing and gar telling her to chill
[17:20] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:20] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:20] ilyena_sylph: *cuddles Gar*
[17:20] ilyena_sylph: *wishes Johns would remember he and Slade had the Great True Love once upon a time*
[17:21] katarik: yes. darn it, gar should be *flipping out*
[17:21] ilyena_sylph: yes.
[17:21] katarik: in my head, he had his freakout already and dick calmed him down enough to fight
[17:21] ilyena_sylph: *nod8
[17:21] ilyena_sylph: yeah
[17:22] katarik: i am not fond of this cassie, either, and i still loathe bizarro match
[17:22] ilyena_sylph: *rolls eyes at the brats*
[17:22] katarik: i miss the young justice cassie, also um NO tim/cassie plzkthx
[17:23] katarik: ... whoa, bart got scary and badass and creepy
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: that is NotmyBart
[17:23] katarik: breaking speedster's legs isn't cool, bart, didn't you learn that already?!?
[17:23] katarik: gyaaaaaaah
[17:23] katarik: uh-UH, not any bart i know
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: gee, you'da thought slade would have taught him that already
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: ....
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: or, rather, Joey
[17:23] katarik: <-- cackling
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: my bad
[17:24] katarik: some day i will figure out exactly to what extent that was slade and what was joey, because *joey can't talk* in someone else's body unless the host is unconscious. and i vividly remember slade talking.
[17:25] katarik: *handwavey of Weird Possession*
[17:25] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:26] katarik: i do not like this bart at all. this is not bart.
[17:26] ilyena_sylph: *agrees*
[17:26] katarik: but i like the slade-pov
[17:27] ilyena_sylph: ignore the kids and read for Slade
[17:27] katarik: !!!
[17:27] katarik: SLADE I WILL SLAP YOU
[17:27] katarik: yes, yes, i know you're lying with what you're telling rose, but she doesn't!!!
[17:27] ilyena_sylph: *G* *nod*
[17:27] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:27] katarik: my girl, oh rose honey
[17:28] katarik: brb
[17:28] ilyena_sylph: k
[17:28] ilyena_sylph: ...threatening spousal abuse, much, kat?
[17:28] ilyena_sylph: *wicked grin*
[17:31] katarik: only if i'm legally married to him, and i'm not.
[17:31] katarik: it's only a common-law marriage right now, and i'm not sure my state acknowledges those.
[17:31] ilyena_sylph: *g* *nod* sorry, it struck me and i had to say it
[17:32] katarik: you really kind of did
[17:32] katarik: ... i probably shouldn't be perving *quite* so hard on the mental image of slade in chains, given his bad reaction to being held down
[17:32] ilyena_sylph: *agrees*
[17:32] katarik: WHAT THE HELL
[17:32] katarik: JOHNS WHAT
[17:33] katarik: caaaaaaaaaaaaass
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: ??
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: oh
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: that
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: bit of idiocy
[17:33] katarik: grarghyface
[17:33] katarik: p.s. since when could dick take cass out with one punch?!?
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: not sure
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: not sure
[17:34] katarik: bah, johns is v. v. bad at cas
[17:34] katarik: cass*
[17:34] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:34] ilyena_sylph: he is
[17:35] katarik: i am kinda beaming at the titans all protecting rose and joey. YAYES. ROSE HAS A FAMILY.
[17:36] ilyena_sylph: *hugs you tight*
[17:36] katarik: ... *cassie* protected rose
[17:36] katarik: OKAY JOHNS I FORGIVE YOU
[17:36] katarik: ... well, kinda
[17:36] ilyena_sylph: *G*
[17:36] ilyena_sylph: keep.
[17:36] ilyena_sylph: reading.
[17:37] katarik: n'awwww, *slade*
[17:37] ilyena_sylph: ??
[17:37] katarik: last page
[17:37] katarik: ... titans east was still a dumb dumb plan, and i still hate it, but i no longer wish to kill johns and spit on his corpse.
[17:38] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:38] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:38] ilyena_sylph: so, final thoughts on Slade after that?
[17:38] katarik: it wasn't really an evil cheshire clone.
[17:38] katarik: but it also wasn't slade real and for true
[17:39] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:39] katarik: it's kinda... yes, i buy slade's new motivations, but they don't mesh with what johns previously said wrt titans east. and i don't buy that this was the best plan he could've come up with to achieve his goal of 'make the titans trust my kids'
[17:40] katarik: but i *do* buy that this is the same guy who never tried to get joey out of the titans
[17:40] ilyena_sylph: *agrees to that, too*
[17:40] ilyena_sylph: all of the above
[17:40] katarik: so. it's not slade. but it's the closest johns has ever written him, and i can at least recognize slade in him.
For non-spoilery summary, Teen Titans 46 gives lousy lousy *lousy* Bart and Cassie and Cass and Match, bad Tim, decent Gar and Donna and Dick, and pretty good Slade.
It reads like Marv Wolfman got his hands on Titans East and went o.O and then hunted Johns down. I wouldn't buy it, but I also wouldn't delete it from my computer immediately on the grounds of it corrupting my other stuff. Which is what I did with all the other issues of Titans East.
[17:02] katarik: HA, i get to pwn my comic store dude -- he mocked me for calling slade slade instead of deathstroke and was all 'nobody calls him that!' and YES THEY DO, SO THERE
[17:02] ilyena_sylph: YES THEY DO
[17:02] katarik: also, dick's betrayed angry little face. *pets him*
[17:03] ilyena_sylph: "Slade, this isn't your fight!"
[17:03] ilyena_sylph: -- Dinah.
[17:03] ilyena_sylph: though she has been known to call him all 3.
[17:04] ilyena_sylph: Slade, Wilson, and Deathstroke. Generally the last once he's pissed her off
[17:04] katarik: *grins*
[17:04] ilyena_sylph: and yes, *pets Dick gently*
[17:04] katarik: slade, the outsiders crack was just *mean*
[17:05] ilyena_sylph: yes, it was.
[17:05] ilyena_sylph: but it was also true
[17:05] ilyena_sylph: and keeping Dick distracted from what his actual goal is is important
[17:06] katarik: donna's pissed. oh, boy.
[17:06] ilyena_sylph: yes.
[17:06] ilyena_sylph: oh, boy, indeed
[17:06] ilyena_sylph: we know what happens when Donna's pissed at him
[17:06] katarik: *hides in shelter far far away*
[17:06] ilyena_sylph: and he doesn't have a train around to distract her with
[17:06] katarik: slade, dude, you might be in some trouble
[17:07] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:07] katarik: i love that dick is protective of titans island, but i'm still confused over how Evil Titans Tower got built and he didn't notice
[17:07] ilyena_sylph: so am i
[17:07] ilyena_sylph: slade stealthed it?
[17:07] katarik: how do you stealth something like that from *everybody*?
[17:07] ilyena_sylph: like the pyramid that stealthed it the first time?
[17:08] katarik: how fast did it get built, anyway?
[17:08] ilyena_sylph: damn fast, apparently.
[17:08] katarik: clearly slade has connections
[17:08] ilyena_sylph: so i figure he must have had illusion generators up
[17:08] ilyena_sylph: at the very least
[17:09] ilyena_sylph: the ones that used to throw the illusion of the Tower?
[17:09] katarik: *nods*
[17:09] ilyena_sylph: use 'em to throw clear air instead?
[17:10] katarik: i still don't much like the art, but i am liking this fight between slade and dick.
[17:10] katarik: *shocked surprise*
[17:11] ilyena_sylph: *laugh* it was a damn good fight
[17:11] katarik: i can see slade's affection for the kid! and their history!
[17:11] katarik: it's, like, *in character*
[17:11] ilyena_sylph: *Nodnodnodnodnodnod*
[17:12] katarik: <-- SHOCKED SURPRISE
[17:12] ilyena_sylph: *NOD*
[17:12] ilyena_sylph: wonder if Dick's remembering the last time he fought Slade on that Island
[17:13] katarik: given joey's presence now? oh yeah
[17:13] ilyena_sylph: *aches for him*
[17:13] ilyena_sylph: *them*
[17:13] katarik: you *have* been fighting children half your career, slade, you moron
[17:14] ilyena_sylph: *snicker*
[17:14] ilyena_sylph: so true
[17:14] katarik: and don't even give me that 'graves dug' bull
[17:14] ilyena_sylph: hm?
[17:15] katarik: graves dug, ha, you couldn't kill the titans when you were *trying*
[17:15] ilyena_sylph: *laughter*
[17:15] ilyena_sylph: so true
[17:15] ilyena_sylph: you have Filly collapsing in gales of laughter
[17:15] katarik: i own the issue where he tried to blow them up with a bomb
[17:15] katarik: sorry, no, titans east? not gonna cut it.
[17:16] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:16] katarik: (i still think titans east was a dumb dumb plan)
[17:16] ilyena_sylph: not for wh---read
[17:16] ilyena_sylph: just READ
[17:17] katarik: AAAAAAAAGH, what the crap, what is with the stuff slade is telling joey now?!?
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: just.
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: keep.
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: reading
[17:17] katarik: but -- but it caused me to shriek out loud in pain and agony!
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: just.
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: keep.
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: reading
[17:17] ilyena_sylph: and no you are not allowed to skip to the last page
[17:18] katarik: spoilsport
[17:18] katarik: *sputters*
[17:18] katarik: ROSE
[17:18] katarik: HONEY
[17:18] katarik: BABY
[17:18] ilyena_sylph: hmm?
[17:18] ilyena_sylph: which line?
[17:18] katarik: lili's ghost is going to *kill* you, slade
[17:18] katarik: the 'never should've had you' line
[17:18] katarik: which i know is a lie, but SHE doesn't think so
[17:18] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:19] ilyena_sylph: and yes, lili would murder him for that
[17:19] katarik: she would be so justified!!!
[17:19] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:19] ilyena_sylph: keep reading
[17:19] katarik: i am, i am
[17:20] katarik: i like the duela 'titans together' thing and gar telling her to chill
[17:20] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:20] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:20] ilyena_sylph: *cuddles Gar*
[17:20] ilyena_sylph: *wishes Johns would remember he and Slade had the Great True Love once upon a time*
[17:21] katarik: yes. darn it, gar should be *flipping out*
[17:21] ilyena_sylph: yes.
[17:21] katarik: in my head, he had his freakout already and dick calmed him down enough to fight
[17:21] ilyena_sylph: *nod8
[17:21] ilyena_sylph: yeah
[17:22] katarik: i am not fond of this cassie, either, and i still loathe bizarro match
[17:22] ilyena_sylph: *rolls eyes at the brats*
[17:22] katarik: i miss the young justice cassie, also um NO tim/cassie plzkthx
[17:23] katarik: ... whoa, bart got scary and badass and creepy
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: that is NotmyBart
[17:23] katarik: breaking speedster's legs isn't cool, bart, didn't you learn that already?!?
[17:23] katarik: gyaaaaaaah
[17:23] katarik: uh-UH, not any bart i know
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: gee, you'da thought slade would have taught him that already
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: ....
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: or, rather, Joey
[17:23] katarik: <-- cackling
[17:23] ilyena_sylph: my bad
[17:24] katarik: some day i will figure out exactly to what extent that was slade and what was joey, because *joey can't talk* in someone else's body unless the host is unconscious. and i vividly remember slade talking.
[17:25] katarik: *handwavey of Weird Possession*
[17:25] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:26] katarik: i do not like this bart at all. this is not bart.
[17:26] ilyena_sylph: *agrees*
[17:26] katarik: but i like the slade-pov
[17:27] ilyena_sylph: ignore the kids and read for Slade
[17:27] katarik: !!!
[17:27] katarik: SLADE I WILL SLAP YOU
[17:27] katarik: yes, yes, i know you're lying with what you're telling rose, but she doesn't!!!
[17:27] ilyena_sylph: *G* *nod*
[17:27] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:27] katarik: my girl, oh rose honey
[17:28] katarik: brb
[17:28] ilyena_sylph: k
[17:28] ilyena_sylph: ...threatening spousal abuse, much, kat?
[17:28] ilyena_sylph: *wicked grin*
[17:31] katarik: only if i'm legally married to him, and i'm not.
[17:31] katarik: it's only a common-law marriage right now, and i'm not sure my state acknowledges those.
[17:31] ilyena_sylph: *g* *nod* sorry, it struck me and i had to say it
[17:32] katarik: you really kind of did
[17:32] katarik: ... i probably shouldn't be perving *quite* so hard on the mental image of slade in chains, given his bad reaction to being held down
[17:32] ilyena_sylph: *agrees*
[17:32] katarik: WHAT THE HELL
[17:32] katarik: JOHNS WHAT
[17:33] katarik: caaaaaaaaaaaaass
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: ??
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: oh
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: that
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: bit of idiocy
[17:33] katarik: grarghyface
[17:33] katarik: p.s. since when could dick take cass out with one punch?!?
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: not sure
[17:33] ilyena_sylph: not sure
[17:34] katarik: bah, johns is v. v. bad at cas
[17:34] katarik: cass*
[17:34] ilyena_sylph: yes
[17:34] ilyena_sylph: he is
[17:35] katarik: i am kinda beaming at the titans all protecting rose and joey. YAYES. ROSE HAS A FAMILY.
[17:36] ilyena_sylph: *hugs you tight*
[17:36] katarik: ... *cassie* protected rose
[17:36] katarik: OKAY JOHNS I FORGIVE YOU
[17:36] katarik: ... well, kinda
[17:36] ilyena_sylph: *G*
[17:36] ilyena_sylph: keep.
[17:36] ilyena_sylph: reading.
[17:37] katarik: n'awwww, *slade*
[17:37] ilyena_sylph: ??
[17:37] katarik: last page
[17:37] katarik: ... titans east was still a dumb dumb plan, and i still hate it, but i no longer wish to kill johns and spit on his corpse.
[17:38] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:38] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:38] ilyena_sylph: so, final thoughts on Slade after that?
[17:38] katarik: it wasn't really an evil cheshire clone.
[17:38] katarik: but it also wasn't slade real and for true
[17:39] ilyena_sylph: *nod*
[17:39] katarik: it's kinda... yes, i buy slade's new motivations, but they don't mesh with what johns previously said wrt titans east. and i don't buy that this was the best plan he could've come up with to achieve his goal of 'make the titans trust my kids'
[17:40] katarik: but i *do* buy that this is the same guy who never tried to get joey out of the titans
[17:40] ilyena_sylph: *agrees to that, too*
[17:40] ilyena_sylph: all of the above
[17:40] katarik: so. it's not slade. but it's the closest johns has ever written him, and i can at least recognize slade in him.
For non-spoilery summary, Teen Titans 46 gives lousy lousy *lousy* Bart and Cassie and Cass and Match, bad Tim, decent Gar and Donna and Dick, and pretty good Slade.
It reads like Marv Wolfman got his hands on Titans East and went o.O and then hunted Johns down. I wouldn't buy it, but I also wouldn't delete it from my computer immediately on the grounds of it corrupting my other stuff. Which is what I did with all the other issues of Titans East.