I'm just a soul whose intentions are good.
Oh lord, please don't let me be misunderstood.
There's a rather interesting coversation going on HERE regarding the Sue-ishness of one Ianto Jones.
I admit forthrightly to being the person the original poster was having the conversation with that sparked the issue.
I'm sure a few more viewpoints would be welcome to the discussion, as it seems rather dominated by the "How dare you say Ianto is a SUE, when obviously it's Gwen who's a Mary Sue, and by the way, here are all the reasons Ianto is wonderful and Gwen is a slutty ho-bag" faction. NOTE-I may be simplifying somewhat.
Before anyone puts on the Wellies and delves in, allow me to say a few things.
1. My original remark was not that Ianto is a Sue, but rather that he is RTD's Mary Sue, which isn't quite the same thing.
2. I liked Ianto when he said the thing about the bananas in Out of Time and when he gave Gwen his arm in Sleeper. So see, I'm not a total hater.
3. I'm gobsmacked at the difference between the show I've been watching obsessively and the one that other people have. Maybe it's like the pre/post-watershed thing. Different versions going out to different mind-sets.
I leave the discussion to those who wish to take it up. I'm off to Davies Hall to hear and see some Tango with the hubby.
There's a rather interesting coversation going on HERE regarding the Sue-ishness of one Ianto Jones.
I admit forthrightly to being the person the original poster was having the conversation with that sparked the issue.
I'm sure a few more viewpoints would be welcome to the discussion, as it seems rather dominated by the "How dare you say Ianto is a SUE, when obviously it's Gwen who's a Mary Sue, and by the way, here are all the reasons Ianto is wonderful and Gwen is a slutty ho-bag" faction. NOTE-I may be simplifying somewhat.
Before anyone puts on the Wellies and delves in, allow me to say a few things.
1. My original remark was not that Ianto is a Sue, but rather that he is RTD's Mary Sue, which isn't quite the same thing.
2. I liked Ianto when he said the thing about the bananas in Out of Time and when he gave Gwen his arm in Sleeper. So see, I'm not a total hater.
3. I'm gobsmacked at the difference between the show I've been watching obsessively and the one that other people have. Maybe it's like the pre/post-watershed thing. Different versions going out to different mind-sets.
I leave the discussion to those who wish to take it up. I'm off to Davies Hall to hear and see some Tango with the hubby.