Back in my good graces show but I had to trash you first NCIS LA review

Nov 18, 2011 08:57

Do you guys remember that discussion in Empty Quiver, re-watch the first scene with Pam Greer and Sam bond automatically over the fact that she was in a relationship with her married partner, where he compared it the higher meaning to their partnership and the job? Sam tells her he doesn't wear his wedding ring often and he's not at home, he ( Read more... )

sam is hot mess, too many emotions, ncis la

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suchthefangirl November 20 2011, 23:22:26 UTC
HI! I figured rather than hijacking cat's blog, I would talk to you here (especially when I saw this post!). So, HI!

Yes! so much about G and Sam's relationship. I get the feeling that G and Hetty are the only ones who know that Sam has a family. I think he probably loves his wife, but was not fond of himself right at that moment. I just...wow, that was so harsh, that whole scene right before, when he was telling Jada goodbye. *shudder*

And then there was G. The look on G's face for ALL OF IT. OMG. He was so upset with Sam in so many ways. I don't know you or your stance on slash, but I'm a huge slasher, and the two of them, my god, every scene that G was in in that episode was all about how much he loves Sam. He was hurt that Sam was off with this other woman, yet he would do anything to protect him. I'd almost bet he'd've killed the kid if he could've reached him in order to protect Sam. And he was SO upset at Sam going off with Jada. I guess it could be played that he didn't want Sam to hurt his wife? Or maybe it was all about how G was upset that Sam had to do this, and how he knew it would hurt him in the end. For me, I just read it as jealousy and hurt. There was so much hurt!

I'm still upset about this episode in so many ways. I mean in ways that I'm supposed to be upset. I feel all confused. The only thing I was totally sure of by the end of the episode was that G loves Sam more than his own life. And that G knows Sam better than anyone else in Sam's life. It's sort of like the women are there because they have to be, it's expected, but, the love they (sam and G) have for each other is stronger than anything. The series has been doing more and more of this this season.

Not sure I'm being coherent here. Sorry. Usually I'm more coherent, but I just have so many feeling about all this, and a weak brain...

(and I'm so not looking forward to next weeks episode. Just sayin')

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Hi back and whoa this eppy has me talking lots.:) kalikahuntress November 21 2011, 00:16:10 UTC
I have some issues with Sam and his family and it comes down to three things why he isn't in love with his wife but he most likely loves/cares for her:

the lyrics used at the end of the episode written for the show by LL himself:
http://ncislafan.blogspot.com/2011/11/betrayal-3x09-music.html

The show can't deny that Sam's work takes him away from home all of the time and a lot of that is Sam's fault. Sure he is serving his country but he is doing that when he spends Christmas with G, invites him on vacations, allows him to keep him up all night at his home for weeks on end and they go out after work all the time. If G was that guilty and Sam for that matter, they would try to make Sam's family more of a priority during his free time.

The few times that Sam obliquely referred to his home life haven't been that encouraging. I didn't know at the time but during en ep last year Sam was complaining about how women leave the things open like they are going to come back to it and they never do. Then G says trouble in paradise sarcastically and he snorts irritably. He also commiserates with Michel Saleh about the wives not liking the job and complaining about it. Taking this and everything else along with how that scene played out and the fact he is always lying to her, that marriage is under some severe strain. The fiddling of the ring and his back to his wife was certainly poignant, she is not the source of comfort for him I say which is sad.

G and Sam are it for each other IMO whether it's sexual or not. G is his priority and whether I like it or not, the family is a distant third after G then the mission. G is the only real and honest thing in Sam's life IMO that he can enjoy and be with selfishly and isn't tied solely to his job or tainted with lies. I think the show has set-up Sam to make some hard choices about the family at home that is in neglect and the job. And we don't even get me started on what he asks of G knowing how much Sam means to him and the deception to the team, all of this is going to fall a apart for Sam eventually.

What this in my means is that Sam identifies so strongly with the job above his own worth that he doesn't see what it does to others. Hetty keeps telling him he is more than the job but Sam doesn't see it. And G one day needs to actually tell Sam how much this hurts him and the team.

My poor Deeks getting his heart broken next week scares me, I just adore him and hate to see him kicked like that.

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Re: Hi back and whoa this eppy has me talking lots.:) suchthefangirl November 21 2011, 00:49:46 UTC
Wow that song. The lyrics that I had picked up during the show I had thought were referring to how he'd fallen in love with and then betrayed another woman, and what did that say about his mariage.

In an early episode, Sam was in bed with someone, which we now assume was his wife. She'd not been mentioned or referred to. I have to wonder if the ptb remembered that he was married or not? There are so many times when he did things that you would never expect him to do if he was married. What that says about his relationship with is wife is just sad. I agree totally that G is far more important to him than his wife.

Before this last episode I had this whole thing in my head about how Sam and G were going off together for the weekends, and that when Hetty was sending Sam home to his family, that meant G. I mean, G bought Sam a car because Sam was all sad about his getting stollen!! That is not the act of a friend. That's the act of someone who loves you enough to know exactly what you want and how much it means to you and is willing to give you whatever he can to make you happy. That's family. I was very sad to find out that there were TWO other women that Sam was going home (or away) to.

You are so right about the vacationing and holidays and all. It says something very bad about Sam's relationship with his wife and child if he's spending free time with G instead of them. Especially since G knows about them and hence is complicit to the deceit. As well as how much that has to hurt G when he longs so much for his lost family and here Sam is his surrogate family, but at the expense of Sam's own family. Not fun dynamics there.

Next week scares me too. I'm really hoping that the scenes we saw were purposely misleading and that it's all an undercover thing, and not really real. I do not want poor Deeks hurt like that (they used to do all sorts of misleading coming next weeks on Veronica Mars, so I can hope?)

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Re: Hi back and whoa this eppy has me talking lots.:) kalikahuntress November 21 2011, 01:11:58 UTC
I think the fact that they asked LL to record this song for his character and that Shane said that Sam has 'family aspects' to him suggests they knew they weren't going to go the devoted husband routine. I wasn't sure if they remembered themselves especially when Sam agreed to go to the Bahamas for a week because G asked, really who does that unless duh you are married to your partner.

I am so scared for poor Deeks; the show really ripped my heart out this past week and I don't Deeks stamped on. Dammit, Sam and Ga are already a hot mess we need Deeks and Kensi to balance that all out.

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