Choose Your Own Adventure (Authors Edition)

Feb 20, 2009 14:38

Item: Lord Peter Wimsey.

Sadly Dorothy Sayers wrote Lord Peter mysteries of a finite number, and then moved onto religious plays, and Dante of all things...[and I say, wasn't one infernal poet enough??? I ask you. When the world could have been blessed with tales of Lady Peter (nee Miss Harriet Deborah Vane) and the Wimsey sproglets in WWII to say ( Read more... )

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valancy_joy February 20 2009, 20:44:24 UTC
If one were exceptionally stunted by their rural upbringing, and hadn't, you know, actually read any Dorothy Sayers ... where would you suggest one start?

Please advise by return post, after, certainly, taking some time to recover from the shock caused by the knowledge that there are still such uninformed readers out there...

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ophymirage February 20 2009, 20:56:27 UTC
the answer to your question is a regrettably subjective one; there are ardent Wimsey fanciers who resent the intrusion of one Harriet Vane as distraction from some rather fine (early) straight-up detective novels. They would undoubtedly recommend that you begin with "Whose Body?", the earliest (and really, honestly, the best) pre-Vane.

However, it is undeniably true that most of the best of Sayers' mysteries are post-Vane. If you want to read them in approximate chronological order for the romance, start with Strong Poison, then Have His Carcase, Murder Must Advertise, Gaudy Night, and Busman's Honeymoon. (I tend to skip Nine Tailors partly because Harriet's not involved, and partly because it's just an odd mystery, and not her best.)

Were I forced to choose a single favorite, it would probably be Murder Must Advertise. It's mostly Wimsey (Harriet makes brief appearances at best) and Sayers's rich and complex use of language is at her most amazing and witty.

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valancy_joy February 20 2009, 21:25:32 UTC
Being both ardent, and fond of a linear chronology I will have to take this sensible advice, well, under advisement.

But huge thanks for pointing the way towards a series I can't believe I haven't explored! It all sounds just so delightfully spiffy.

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kalichan February 20 2009, 21:00:49 UTC
Clearly our charming colloquy is turning out to be both decorative and useful. I am enchanted to be of service, to say nothing of being in your debt for a lovely afternoon spent with Mrs. Gillmore and her protege Miss Maida Westabrook, of Boston.

Dorothy Sayers's Lord Peter Wimsey mysteries can be divided into two parts -- pre-Harriet and post-Harriet. While there is something to be said for reading them in chronological order, the writing gets substantially better the more you move along. If you don't insist on reading in order -- I myself read the Harriet Vane ones first, fell madly in love, and then went back and read the previous ones as sort of prequels.

So, the first one of the Harriet Vane ones is Strong Poison.
If you want to read completely in order, the first one proper is Whose Body.

There's a pretty excellent summation here -- Poison for Two in the Library: A Lord Peter Wimsey Overview -- which also explains the books in brief (scroll down.)

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valancy_joy February 20 2009, 21:20:53 UTC
Your kind words are very welcome, and I will take your excellent advice to heart at my earliest opportunity to visit my local lending library.

I am so glad to hear you enjoyed your visit with Mrs. Gillmore and Miss Westabrook. I have been wondering if you would care to be introduced to a Miss Patricia Fairfield. I first met her in the summer of 1906 while she was on a tour of Long Island in one of those new fangled automobiles.

I enclose further particulars, and remain in your debt.

http://redeemingqualities.wordpress.com/the-patty-fairfield-series-by-carolyn-wells/ (includes links to the Gutenberg full text versions)

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kalichan February 20 2009, 21:57:55 UTC
Miss Fairfield sounds just my cup of tea. I will be most pleased to make her accquaintance, and will keep you posted regarding the results.

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melodylemming February 21 2009, 17:35:14 UTC
The link above direct you to my website, which is how I got here -- via my blog stats page. And I thought I had better comment, because about 90% of the books you mention loving are among my favorites as well.

I've only recently discovered Bujold, and I'm trying not to make my way through the Vorkosigan books too quickly.

Also, are you familiar with Josephine Tey?

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kalichan February 21 2009, 20:56:10 UTC
Hi! Welcome. I'm pretty excited to add "Redeeming Qualities" to my reading list, so you may well be seeing more from me ;-)

My mistake with the Vorkosigan books was reading them too quickly...but it was impossible to stop! Luckily she's at work on the next one, so that should be out soon... (soon being a relative term.)

I've read Tey's "Daughter of Time" but none of the others. I should probably rectify that.

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melodylemming February 22 2009, 23:20:23 UTC
I hope so :) -- check out my Laura E. Richards and Marie Conway Oemler tags -- I think you may enjoy their books. As for Tey, Daughter of Time is considered one of her three best books, along with The Franchise Affair and Brat Farrar. Also check out Miss Pym Disposes -- it's like Tey's version of Gaudy Night.

Meanwhile, having read this entry, I'm adding Maida's Little Shop and The Semi Attached Couple to my reading list.

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kalichan February 24 2009, 00:36:37 UTC
This is very exciting. I just met Maida myself, but I'm really quite fond of The Semi-Attached Couple. It usually comes bound with The Semi Detached House which I liked less well.

I will definitely check out Miss Pym Disposes. With a title like that!

I sometimes have a yen for books that I simply cannot defend. (Ex: books by Janet Lambert??) But these are all defensible I feel. *g*

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valancy_joy February 21 2009, 22:51:21 UTC
May I report that having spent half the night in the company of Lord Wimsey (thanks to finding Whose Body? online) ... and taking advantage of a christmas gift certificate, I am now four more volumes richer, and will soon make the acquaintance of Miss Harriet Vane.

I sense a lot of reading in my future. And a jealous cat. He dislikes books for some reason. Tries to eat them. The manners of some felines...

Thanks for the push into the Wimseyverse. The lodgings are very comfortable.

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kalichan February 24 2009, 00:37:34 UTC
Simply smashing! I cannot wait to hear what you think of the following ones. *g* Do keep me in the loop, old thing.

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calloocallay February 20 2009, 21:38:13 UTC
There is no Post-Harriet, there is only Pre and during. Harriet: she lasts. I went directly from a reread of all the Wimsey books and short stories in Peter's chronological order (ie, not order of publication, but rather the order in which the plots occurred in the characters' lives) to a reread of the the Anne books. I'm not sure why it seemed like a logical next step, but it seems to be working out okay.

I HIGHLY recommend Connie Willis, particularly To Say Nothing of the Dog and Bellwether.

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kalichan February 20 2009, 21:46:46 UTC
I was just talking with someone about Harriet/Peter vs. Gilbert/Anne, and expressing my preference for Harriet/Peter because I enjoy them just as much post marriage as I do pre, whereas in the post marriage Anne books, the interesting characters become the neighbors and kids.

And of course, Connie Willis.

My pre/post Harriet was meant to convey pre-introduction of, and post-introduction of. Just to clarify!

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