[fIC] Cruel Intentions - Revelation Chapter 9

Jul 11, 2009 18:06

New chapter. Again, sorry for taking so long. But at least it's a long one XD ( Read more... )

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trimethoprim July 18 2009, 01:46:00 UTC
No his back story is fine so far. And honestly I wouldn't be able to come up with a better idea to wave it into the story at this point, so who am I to critizise?
Perhaps not to avenge Mikhail or to feel pity for him I have to admit I could only think of pity when I read it. I mean when someone tells you something tragic it normally causes feelings like sympathy, mostly out of pity in humans.......and I thought this is so wrong. Fei should not pity Mik, or feel sorry for him. And I in Mik's shoes would flip if my brother told him about it and most likely would also be angry at Fei, just for knowing and maybe looking at him with other eyes (a matter of pride?). But then again this is Mik, he possesses no pride when it comes to Fei, so more probably he will just shrug it off and surely not let it get between Fei and himself.
hmm I have the feeling this got somehow too farfetched but these were my thoughts upon reading Alexei's and Fei's encounter. On a second thought then I got the very idea you mentioned in your reply: that everything is just and equitable when it triggers Fei to act differently.

she's been hanging there until now waiting for Fei to dump Mik or for Mik to quit on Fei because he's too big of a catch to just let go. I couldn't stand it nontheless. It must hurt so much. And I would want to make him hurt for hurting me so much. I hope she is mean!
I mean, what wouldn't you do to have a piece of Asami? I want to say that I would f*ck him (daily please) without getting my feelings involved, because I hate to be in a one sided relationship with being the only one who suffers........but in case of Asami it would be kinda hypocritical to say that T_T, thank god nobody like him will ever come my way *wipes sweat*

find Ray turning into Mik So it is this way, it's more like you having the hots for Mik? *interrogative light* Speak now woman! lol

I know you dun give a shit about Aki, but nontheless it's nice to have an uke for once not giving in to blinding power and beauty of his seme rapist (though Fei is not 'his' seme). But I do understand since this story circles around Fei and Mik and not Fei and Aki. (I'm searching for such ukes in original yaoi fan fiction though, but mostly in vain.)
Rape in yaoi happens because too many of us women WANT to be raped by a guy as hot as someone like Asami This is SO VERY wrong, but you are SO VERY DAMN right. I'm no exception from these women *hides in shame* T___T

You know, if you practice tracing the whole manga you will soon be able to. XD .....are you suggesting here I shall do that? I'm just gonna pretend I missed that remark....*mutters* In my next life maybe........XD

I love LOVE LOVE your long comment. I know. Why do you think I'm working so hard on them?.....I'm lying. I always have to hold back, I just keep on rambling automatically *grin*.

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baby_fei July 20 2009, 06:53:35 UTC
I mean when someone tells you something tragic it normally causes feelings like sympathy, mostly out of pity in humans.......and I thought this is so wrong.

No, it's not pity. You feel pity when you see someone you don't love have a misfortune. When someone you love gets hurt you don't feel pity, you feel pain, you feel the need to protect and make that pain go away, not to sympathize. What Yoh felt for Fei was pity, because he did nothing about it other than feeling bad (and that pisses me off in the same way you are describing). When you love someone their pain becomes yours and naturally we all try to do something it. I think it is a very hard thing to explain though if you have never fallen in love with anyone yet. XD

But then again this is Mik, he possesses no pride when it comes to Fei, so more probably he will just shrug it off and surely not let it get between Fei and himself.

On the contrary, it is because he has so much pride and confidence that he isn't going to feel anything other than feeling sorry that Fei didn't ask him about it himself but instead asked Alexei. And I think Mikhail is at the point where he loves Fei enough that he wants Fei to open up to him and vice versa. It is my philosophy of love and relationship, that whenever you allow the word 'pride' to get in the way of your relationship, that is a sign that the love you have for each other isn't enough. It's not that Mik has no pride when it comes to Fei, but he considers Fei as a part of him now that there should only be love, honesty and understanding between them and never pride. All failed marriage failed because of pride, you know? Because they feel the other person is someone else they live with. For a relationship to work, you think you belong together and you drive away everything else that separates you. Mikhail is thinking "we", not "I", and that is true love, not submission.

And I would want to make him hurt for hurting me so much.
LOL That is because you have never loved anyone enough to realize seeing him hurt is to hurt yourself XD (don't puke, because it is true) Feodora is coping with her one-sided love, I think. Besides, Mikhail has never lied to her or broken a promise nor is he keeping her hanging by giving her false hope out of pity. If she's hurt, it's her fault for not moving on, not his. He has made it very clear from the beginning that she's not the one.

LOL You just want a one night stand with Asami that lasts forever?.....hmmmm? I think I'm starting to understand the essence of A x A now. I mean who doesn't want a one night stand with a hot guy that lasts forever with no strings attached?

it's more like you having the hots for Mik?
You mean to tell me you don't already know that? *RFLMAO* I totally have the hots for Mik. XD I am totally and utterly an uke in bed (as in I ALWAYS want to be smexed and I never feel the need to smex anyone)....so I do need a seme (Fei is totally an uke in bed IMO - and I like him that way XD)

but nontheless it's nice to have an uke for once not giving in to blinding power and beauty of his seme rapist

It definitely would be nice and that's actually why I love Zardei x Teti (which is a seme giving into blinding power and beauty of his uke rape victim XD). And I would really love to write it, except I need another uke that's not Aki and another seme that's not Fei or Asami. Let's face it, the moment I make Aki tell Asami or Fei to go fuck himself and say "dude, you suck in bed and I'm just gonna lie here wishing it would be over very soon =_=" everyone will go "bullshit" "It's so damn OOC" "You hate Asami/Fei, don't you?" LOL Whenever rape is in question, you either have to pick an uke or a seme to win, and usually people pick seme, because we're girls, we're all uke in a sense. But Asami x Fei is very delicious, although it will never fully work (or will be very hard) because Fei fans can't stand it if a seme doesn't submit to Fei's earth-shattering beauty, and Asami fans can't stand it if Asami submits to anyone at all. XD

I have to go. Hang in there, sweetie. Thank you for stopping by and chat with me. *smooches*

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trimethoprim July 23 2009, 21:34:51 UTC
When someone you love gets hurt you don't feel pity, you feel pain After I've read that I thought about it. I guess I dun need to fall in love to understand. I just imagined what I would feel like when something happened to a member of my family, my parents or my brothers family and I have to say you are right....I would feel pain, I would be hurt, I would be afraid because I love them. I guess this is what you meant. On the other side when something happens to a person not close to me I maybe feel pity, sometimes not even that.

whenever you allow the word 'pride' to get in the way of your relationship, that is a sign that the love you have for each other isn't enough. this is what I meant when I said Mik has no pride when it comes to Fei and their relationship. He is willing to do anything (and he surely would have happ....nah maybe not 'happily', but would have told Fei the story himself had he asked, just in case it helped) to make their relationship work and I'm sure he can swallow down his pride for Fei if it will be needed. That doesn't have anything to do with his confidence though, and yes he is a confident bastard and I'm sure as hell he is VERY VERY confident he can win Fei over in the end. I'm with you regarding your explanation about 'Love and Pride' hon.

seeing him hurt is to hurt yourself XD (don't puke, because it is true) God please let me puke....joke. Yes I admit I've never ever loved a male LIVING being enough to understand it....it's somehow sad....but hey I'm independent :)
Regarding Feodora...yes it is her fault.....I want to say 'if I were in her place, knowing he loves another, I wouldn't have married him in the first place, letting myself be hurt'.....but what if I put Asami into Mik's position?........ahh shit my wall of arguments is beginning to crumble under the weight of my hypocrisy. So as for a neverending one night stand with Asami....it wouldn't work for me.....I would love him and be pissed when he fucks around.......it only works with a person I have no deep feelings for. But honestly in these sorta relatonships one party will always be the loser, the one that involves feelings.

So you could build Mik's harem together with Fei huh? Cool thing. I'm the same (dun be afraid, I dun want in Mik's harem), though I'm seme in life I'm uke in bed, thats why I have the hots for my godseme :)

"dude, you suck in bed and I'm just gonna lie here wishing it would be over very soon =_=" If you ever make Aki say that about Asami I will come and haunt you in your dreams......*is serious*........
But like I said I accepted it by now that ukes just give in, even to their rapists....and again you have a point (you are refreshingly honest woman, thats why I love ta talk with ya, and make me admit all these things constantly I rather want to deny....damn you XD). I'm a girl, I'm uke...partly, and I want my seme to win (semes in general have to win over the willing or unwilling uke....the more unwilling the more fun it is), and to control T__T (but only in bed)....that was hard to admit *wipes sweat*. But since I still hate stories were ukes just give in too easily (no fun at all), I'm searching for those with a confident, feisty uke, giving his seme hell or with a realistic plot.....in any case the win of the seme should be dragged out looooooooooooong.

Yes AsamixFei would be delicious indeed, it's the reason I'm in love with this pairing. Knowing both characters it could become a bloody, passionate and neverending lovers quarrel with nonstop angst and drama.....exactly my cup of tea.....*sobs* Why? Why can't I be an AxA fan...my life would be soo much easier.

*sighs* More words, less sense *headdesk*

*Hangs in there* *hugs back*

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kajornwan July 24 2009, 03:42:38 UTC
and he surely would have happ....nah maybe not 'happily', but would have told Fei the story himself had he asked

I've always thought the fact that Fei had never asked pained Mikhail the most. He wouldn't talk about it happily but I think it would help to know that Fei cares enough to want to know. Come to think of it, I have made this a one-sided love for like...two years >.< But no XD I don't think Mik is confident at all about winning Fei in the end. I think he's one of those extraordinary people who just doesn't quit, like ever. Unless of course he has a change of heart. And if Fei decided to run off with Asami (if the man too has a change of heart), I think he'll just shrug, wish Fei a happy ending but still keep trying whenever opportunity knocks XD

but what if I put Asami into Mik's position?
ha ha well, I think the weird thing about life is that love and reason/logic never goes together. And you simply have to live proudly and reasonably without love or live with love and abandon all logic. XD We're all struggling with that you know. On one hand we have this ideal that we should never be dependent or dominated. On the other, love makes you break those rules for it to work. The thing is, lately I find all the feminist 'rules' pride and independence often get in the way of true happiness. And somehow I think the dominated housewife of the past lived happier than we do when they come to terms with the natural order of things and realize that men are the physically dominating species and women are here because men don't function otherwise LOL. I think the women of the 21st century are weakening ourselves trying to be like men and abandoning what is truly great about us that men don't have and can never be good at....thus rendering us useless in a sense. These days you won't find the sentence "behind every great man is a woman" anymore. It's more like "men these days are wimps because the women(be it mother or wife) are not doing their job." The world doesn't need 2 working parents, it needs 1 working parent and 1 fabulous mother. :D I'm such a stone age woman XD

I'm a girl, I'm uke...partly, and I want my seme to win (semes in general have to win over the willing or unwilling uke....the more unwilling the more fun it is), and to control T__T

Again you remind me of the conflict women these days have. We all want a man who's strong and seme and respectable like Asami, but we don't want him to dominate us outside of bed and we don't like to show him respect LOL No wonder everyone's single XD I once complained to my mom in law about how I don't like it that Ray tries to dominate and take the reign all the time, she asked me, "then would you like a man who is weaker than Ray who will let you dominate?" That shut me up for good. LOL I would be prouder to have an Asami husband dominate me and treasure me as his wife than to have a wimp for a husband who follows me around. My motto these days, "You want a real man, you have to be a real woman" :D

Yes AsamixFei would be delicious indeed, it's the reason I'm in love with this pairing. Knowing both characters it could become a bloody, passionate and neverending lovers quarrel with nonstop angst and drama.

*Wholeheartedly agrees with you* Why can't I be an A x A fan ? T___T You know, since daimazu_chan did the unforgivable sin of making Asami cheat on Aki with Fei just like that *snaps* in her fic, I am now thinking.. why not? LOL *plot bunny running all over her head* That'll take a VERY long fic though *wipes drool imagining it*

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trimethoprim August 1 2009, 15:05:26 UTC
I too would want from a person I like or love to show interest in my life, to want to know everything about me. I guess it's sorta like a proof that the feeling is mutual. So I can understand Mik feeling pained because Fei won't do it. But even when you say "one sided love" and "he isn't sure about winning Fei in the end", I think he somehow knows pretty well that there are feelings for him in the dragon which aren't allowed to ascend to the surface. He must know, only a blind cow wouldn't notice the little changes Fei made for Mik, e.g. letting him into his private quarters without announcement (well, before they broke off). I mean every one needs at least small victories once in a while to keep on going, Mik is surely no exception.

And if Fei decided to run off with Asami (if the man too has a change of heart), I think he'll just shrug, wish Fei a happy ending... okayyyyyy but that wasn't at all the impression he made to me when he thought Fei had willingly slept with Asami back then in CI (when in truth he was raped by him). More like seething with jealousy.

should never be dependent or dominated *nods frantically* my motto in real daily life, the only one who is allowed to dominate me is my boss T_T.....sadly I really didn't experience such love till now so I never had anyone to throw all reason out the window for.
But wow, I didn't know you had such an opinion on the topic men and women roles in society, but don't forget you are working as well. Could you imagine to abandon your job entirely to only be a housewife?
For a fact I never would want to be physically stronger than men (kinda scary imagination), who would dominate me in bed in this case huh *uke speaking*? But as for daily life all I know is I want to work (because I love my profession) and I don't want to be a housewife (I hate housework and well you know my opinion about kids in general), I still want to be independent.....maybe all this will change one day, if it does you will be the first to know ;-)

Again you remind me of the conflict women these days have. We all want a man who's strong and seme and respectable like Asami, but we don't want him to dominate us outside of bed and we don't like to show him respect LOL No wonder everyone's single XD damn you hit the nail on the head, THAT is the reason I am single, I'm pretty sure about it. And your mom in law is right as well. I can't imagine having a wimp as men, I couldn't take him seriously. I'm even going so far to admit that my man would need a lil bit of the macho gene, but only a tiny bit. All an all it's such a contradiction. We want one thing but don't accept the other.

Why can't I be an A x A fan ? Yes why can't you be huh? Would be of benefit for me at least XD. What, are you deliberating now for Fei to seriously cheat on Mik with Asami? *gets shot* joke....but hey I would be open as beta whenever you are willing to set up a novel length "Asami cheat on Aki with Fei" fic (or you just leave out Aki entirely) :) *feeds carrots to plot bunnies*.
btw where is this fic by daimazu_chan? Is it worth reading?

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kajornwan August 2 2009, 10:19:34 UTC
Well, I think Mik knows Fei does feel a LOT for him, but apparently, compared to Asami, he's could be brushed aside anytime at the moment. Fei seems to be able to ruin his life for that man alone.

but that wasn't at all the impression he made to me when he thought Fei had willingly slept with Asami back then in CI
Oh, he'd be crazy jealous, of course. But eventually once Fei makes it clear, I don't think Mik will ever stop or fall into that miserable depth of hell for too long. I think he might for a while, and then he'll just bounces right up XD

Could you imagine to abandon your job entirely to only be a housewife?

er.....shit.....I have to seriously tell you without shame...I am actually waiting for the day Ray would lay me off or fire me or something so I can just be a housewife. LOL It's not that I like to do housework, but my kids are my life now and all I want to do is get my home and their life in perfect shape. As of now I can't because I suck at handling two things at the same time (my mom in law can but I can't T_T) and I tend to flunk at parenting faster than work when I can't handle both. I know even with so much time in my hands I'd still won't make a perfect mom, but at least I should have a better chance at it. I think perhaps it's due to the situation with my mom who's a superwoman at work (and people call me that too sometimes), but parenting seems to be something out-of-this-world difficult for both her and me. So if you ask me, work is too easy and not challenging to me anymore. Raising kids is, like, totally. I've never done anything harder in my life and failed at it every damn day. These days I look at single working women boasting about their work and I go "pfft, let's see you try to make a 2 year old eat peas or try to stay up at 2am carrying a baby for 3 damn hours when he's being difficult." LMAO Seriously, work, study, exams, all that stuff people think it's so hard is a piece of cake compared to parenting, and none of those are as important anyway. And since I already know you'll make a great mom, I can guarantee if you ever have kids (if and only if you should be so unfortunate as to get knocked up or something LOL *gets shot* because the way I see it you won't get married anytime soon) you will change your mind soon enough XD I know you'd make a very loving mom (but a very strict one XD)

THAT is the reason I am single

That is the reason half the woman my age is still single XD and why great semes pick ukes not women. ha ha. You know why? women never see the big picture. We see details. I'm sure men are totally amazed as in "you want to see me beat the shit out of that guy but you don't want me to talk back to you? WTF?" I'm quite sure ukes are much easier to handle than us LOL

What, are you deliberating now for Fei to seriously cheat on Mik with Asami?
That is actually one of my biggest guilty pleasure that I admit to having dream about it secretly sometimes. I think daichan's fics are very wroth reading although she thinks otherwise and never posts publicly. But you can probably go to daimazu_fic and PM her to let you read or something. Tell her I recommend you. ^_^ She's a Yoh x Fei, but there's a part of A x F in all of us Fei fans. XD And if I ever write it, I am now dead set on having Aki be there and have Fei snatch Asami away just like that *snaps* and for once, the world would make sense. *evil laugh* (and I shall truly be hated by all LOL)

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