Well, it's not really that it didn't work for me. It's that I expected so much, even after last week, and it didn't live up to my expectations at all. If it'd been any other episode, like mid-series, I would've taken it for all its good moments and even said I enjoyed it. But it was Ten's finale, and that made me too demanding, I suppose.
I agree. I feel robbed. Maybe, upon re-watching, I'll feel different, but... I hated it. It left me feeling sad and miserable and there's a terrible ache in my chest. That was NOT how I wanted it to end.
Never mind that so much of the episode was ridiculous. That Ten wasn't okay with his death really disturbed me. Really. His last words were, 'I don't want to go'. How can I be okay with that? And, despite his opportunity to say goodbye to everyone, in the end, he still died alone. How can I be okay with that either?
Don't you dare apologise for "hijacking" my post, because you're really not. :) I'm just glad I'm not the only one feeling so sad and disheartened by the way it all ended. Nine got a really spectacular ending at the end of a really fantastic episode. Ten deserved the same. As for "I don't want to go", I even wondered if I was watching David regenerating instead of Ten... It bugged me, too.
I suppose I wouldn't have minded him dying alone so much if the episode had been worth it.
And now I desperately need a hug. And maybe to rewatch Doomsday to make me feel better.
Yeah, it all got a bit too big, didn't it? The early finales where they had to stick to 45 minutes were more disciplined. When so much had to be packed into a scene like the last one in Doomsday, writing had to be more economical and less showy.
It was as if everyone loved David a little too much, and went a little too far. I hope he was genuinely happy with the result. We'll never know. My feelings were very similar to yours throughout - liked the Time Lords, adored Wilf, hated all the messy loose ends. I was rather more pleased with the Master's death than you seemed to be, rather less with Rose right at the end.
Maybe there was no way it could possibly have delivered on such high expectations, and for that we need to blame the marketing and publicity people as much, if not more, than the creative ones.
When so much had to be packed into a scene like the last one in Doomsday, writing had to be more economical and less showy.
You've got a point. That probably reined in RTD's tendancy to overdo the fanboy side of the show. In my eyes, there's still nothing more powerful in television than the final 10 minutes of Doomsday, from Ten's anguished scream when Rose lets go of the lever to his tears when he realises he won't ever see Rose again or get to tell her how he feels. That final scene between them is perfect on so many levels, between RTD's emotional writing, David and Billie's heartwrenching performance, and Murray Gold's haunting music.
And I suppose the main problem is that I expected a second Doomsday with EoT.
I think you're right. Expectations were so high anyway that RTD didn't stand a chance in delivering something good enough to meet them. Then there's also the difference in expectations from all the different viewers. I mean, if he'd done what I truly wanted, other viewers would've been unhappy with the result. Ah well.
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Ah well.
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Never mind that so much of the episode was ridiculous. That Ten wasn't okay with his death really disturbed me. Really. His last words were, 'I don't want to go'. How can I be okay with that? And, despite his opportunity to say goodbye to everyone, in the end, he still died alone. How can I be okay with that either?
Sorry, I'm hijacking your post. I'm just sad. :(
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I suppose I wouldn't have minded him dying alone so much if the episode had been worth it.
And now I desperately need a hug. And maybe to rewatch Doomsday to make me feel better.
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It was as if everyone loved David a little too much, and went a little too far. I hope he was genuinely happy with the result. We'll never know. My feelings were very similar to yours throughout - liked the Time Lords, adored Wilf, hated all the messy loose ends. I was rather more pleased with the Master's death than you seemed to be, rather less with Rose right at the end.
Maybe there was no way it could possibly have delivered on such high expectations, and for that we need to blame the marketing and publicity people as much, if not more, than the creative ones.
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You've got a point. That probably reined in RTD's tendancy to overdo the fanboy side of the show. In my eyes, there's still nothing more powerful in television than the final 10 minutes of Doomsday, from Ten's anguished scream when Rose lets go of the lever to his tears when he realises he won't ever see Rose again or get to tell her how he feels. That final scene between them is perfect on so many levels, between RTD's emotional writing, David and Billie's heartwrenching performance, and Murray Gold's haunting music.
And I suppose the main problem is that I expected a second Doomsday with EoT.
I think you're right. Expectations were so high anyway that RTD didn't stand a chance in delivering something good enough to meet them. Then there's also the difference in expectations from all the different viewers. I mean, if he'd done what I truly wanted, other viewers would've been unhappy with the result. Ah well.
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